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Hi French,

That's really interesting - I didn't know that you would receive better quality ones from Cheshire. 

Tell me, if you're not able to use a credit card, how do you pay, living in France.  (Just wondering so I can do the same!)

Thanks Peter.

John Hulse (born 1867) left home (Wharton/Over) at the age of 13 or 14.  I have his marriage certificate which showed that his father was also called John and was a labourer.  Family talk is that his family were 'sea captains',  however. 

I have bought all three John Hulse certificates for the year he was born - he was 21 when married, so was born in 1867.  There were 4 Johns from Winsford that year (!!!!!!!) but the first would have been 22 at marriage so I eliminated him.

Of the other three, one had a father called Thomas so was also not my GGF's family. 

Of the remaining, one John Hulse had a Waterman as a father (married to Hannah Clarke) and on the census forms had three brothers, Nathan, Samuel (died aged and William.  Family lore talked of accidents at sea, so I think that this family may be the one.  This John Hulse and Hannah married in Birkenhead (another certificate!) and his father was called Samuel, a waterman again.

The other John Hulse's father was a Coal yard manager with a wife called Ann (hardly a labourer).  I can't find anything about either John's (the sons) after the 1881 censuses in Winsford, but can follow my ancestor John Hulse (married Jessie) in Burton, Wirral.

My questions are:

1. Which John Hulse is my GGF ?

2. What happened to the John Hulse, son of John and Ann the coal yard manager? Could he have ran away to Burton and be my ancestor?

3. I think my John Hulse (born 1867) maybe the waterman's Hulse.  His father John was born about 1833, married to Hannah Clarke and John's father was Samuel, but I can't find record of this John Hulse in the 1841 or 1851 censuses, only when he was married to Hannah by 1861. 

So I can't go further back to trace descendents but also without being absolutely sure which John Hulse he was, there's not much point anyway!

Can anyone give me any info at all??

Where do I go from here? 

Any help would be wonderful, advice or anything!

Thanks

Hi Peter and anyone else who may be able to help me,

I'm researching the Hulse family from Wharton/Over. (GGF) He ran away from home in about 1880 and the family he left have been really difficult to pin down.  I am looking for information on his father, John Hulse born aobut 1833 and his grandfather Samuel Hulse.  Plus any other Hulses in Wharton from this period.  They were watermen.

I'm from NZ so this is a long distance plea!!!

Thanks (waiting hopefully!)