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The Common Room / Re: Birth registration rules in 1901 UK
« on: Tuesday 07 May 24 14:32 BST (UK)  »
but as we know, until 1875, the onus was on the registrar and his deputies to be on the ball in regards to new births in the district.

The actual wording of the act was that the registrar "is hereby required to inform himself carefully of every Birth and every Death which shall happen within his District".

Records of correspondence in the RG files at TNA make it clear that there was no expectation that the registrar was supposed to go out walking the streets asking about births and deaths or to be knocking on people's doors.

He was required to live within his district and to make his address (and times of availability) known by having a sign "in some conspicuous place on or near the outer door of his own dwelling house".

Announcements placed by registrars in the newspapers of the time advertising times for registering are also quite common.

With young infant deaths in the early/mid Victorian period, although there should be both a birth and a death registration, it isn't uncommon to find only the death recorded by the registrar.

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Going by previous releases it will be some months at least - I seem to remember the 2019 version was rolled out quite some time after the first announcement. "Pre-selling" the releases helps to fund the development/testing.

As with any software upgrade the important thing is to look at the changes being made and see if those are worth (to you) paying the difference for.

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The Common Room / Re: Birth registration rules in 1901 UK
« on: Monday 06 May 24 17:39 BST (UK)  »
A birth should be registered (in E/W) within 42 days i.e. 6 weeks. That has applied since 1837, and still does today.

In 1901 the fee (not a fine) that became payable for a late registration was 2s 6d to the registrar and 2s 6d to the superintendent registrar, BUT that only became payable if the birth wasn't registered within 3 months of the birth.

So, in effect, the "free" period for registering was 3 months.

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The Common Room / Re: GRO digital images £2.50
« on: Sunday 05 May 24 14:45 BST (UK)  »
Marginal notes can be related to adoption, corrections or references to re-registrations.

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The Common Room / Re: GRO digital images £2.50
« on: Sunday 05 May 24 12:00 BST (UK)  »
I don't see what else you'd get from a full certificate unless I'm missing something.

Apart from the missing headings, the only difference is that digital images don't (usually) show any marginal notes that may be on the entry - pdf and paper copies do. Otherwise they are identical.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Counterfeit birth certificates in 1920s?
« on: Wednesday 01 May 24 19:54 BST (UK)  »
As I look at this certificate now. I'm suddenly wondering whether the short version ever had koselj on it at all? They are down as the parents and the index has him as Harold Arthur Forrest Koselj but that doesn't seem to be the name he's been given in that column. Could it be that the short form of this very certificate is the one he had all along and it never read Koselj on his copy,

There is never a surname shown for the child on a birth register entry (in E/W) before 1969, so Harold Arthur Forrest are his given/forenames.

Any short form certificate should usually take the surname from the parent(s) and would usually at that time be the father's surname (if named on the entry). So if he did obtain, or was given, a short certificate at some time it should have had the surname Koselj on it.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Counterfeit birth certificates in 1920s?
« on: Wednesday 01 May 24 19:50 BST (UK)  »
As you can see from Audrey’s certificate there is an ‘A’ for Occasional Copy A certificates.
Audrey was registered with both names in 1917, Koselj and Weigand and similarly in 1919, Weigand with mmn Weigand.

To clarify things slightly :

The 1917 entry for Audrey is indexed only under Wiegand. The entry is in the printed index ( with mother's maiden shown as Weigand), but not on FreeBMD. GRO has the entry ( St Marylebone vol1a p647) and has no maiden name shown for the mother which suggests  that there is no father named on the entry.

The 1917 entry also has been noted as Occasional Copy A indicating a copy was submitted to GRO outside of the usual quarterly returns process. That may be connected to the 1919 entry, but may not.  The "A" shouldn't appear on any certificate - it is purely an indexing note.

The 1919 entry is a re-registration to add an unmarried father to an entry - although they have married since the birth they weren't at the time, so they have both signed the entry as "joint informants", and you get the "now the wife of" wording. This predates the Legitimacy Act of 1926 so isn't the same as the more common re-registrations done after that. GRO have indexed the 1919 entry under Koslej and shown a mother's maiden name of Weigand( which technically they shouldn't).

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The Common Room / Re: GRO digital images £2.50
« on: Wednesday 01 May 24 12:59 BST (UK)  »
Do you know if they are going to update the online Deaths index beyond 2021?

I don't know - there is no legal reason why they can't.

The description of the index in the FAQs says "Death records from 1837 to 1957, and 1984 up to two years ago in England and Wales" so if that stays the same I would expect 2022 entries to be added shortly after the end of 2024.

I think the same will apply to the birth index coverage.

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The Lighter Side / Re: PoW camps
« on: Tuesday 30 April 24 12:09 BST (UK)  »
There was one for Italians near where I was brought up in Lancashire. They were put to work on farms in the area and quite a few decided to stay after the war and married locally. A boy I was at school with was the son of one of the POWs.

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