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Surrey / Re: Kingston Cemetery photo c.1870
« on: Monday 29 October 12 05:02 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks again Jane

I’ll wait a little longer before acting on your helpful suggestion about the Common Room, if this thread isn’t sewn up by then.

David

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Surrey / Re: Kingston Cemetery photo c.1870
« on: Friday 26 October 12 06:02 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Jane

I’ll be glad to keep you posted.

I reduced the image resolution to comply with RootsChat’s rules. This close-up extract is as clear as I can get it. Luckily, it gave me Harriet’s name and then FreeBMD led me to Kingston, where the local council’s excellent online database puts Robert in the same plot. I’d initially interpreted his blur as another Harriet but I now suppose that’s him, suffixed “Esq”.

David

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Surrey / Kingston Cemetery photo c.1870
« on: Thursday 25 October 12 15:07 BST (UK)  »
I believe the attached photograph was taken in Kingston Cemetery circa 1870. The slightly tilted headstone at the back appears to commemorate Harriet Ann LEWIS (d. 6 March 1862 aged 29) and her uncle, retired London jeweller Robert LEWIS of Zion Villa, 2 Uxbridge Road, Surbiton (d. 1 Aug. 1865 aged 69). They were buried in grave number 30 of section B CON, which is alongside a pathway between areas 15 and 16 on the upside-down plan at http://www.kingston.gov.uk/kingcemmap.jpg (grid ref. G8 or H8).

I don’t know why this photo was placed in my family’s album, many miles away, in Suffolk. To have any hope of identifying the lady and girl pictured, I’d really like to see the inscriptions on the flat slabs where they sit (or whatever edifices were subsequently built on these). It could also be useful to learn the names and dates on the other monuments nearby, if they are still legible. Would anyone care to visit?

David Gobbitt

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I can now report that no Suffolk Yeomanry lieutenants are listed in Kelly's directory of Lowestoft, Beccles and neighbourhood for 1913-1914. This entry is on page 34 of the Lowestoft section, under TERRITORIAL FORCE:

Suffolk Yeomanry (Duke of York's Own Loyal Suffolk Hussars), Detachment of D Squadron, Lowestoft, Beccles, Bungay & Halesworth; Major M. Barne, commanding; Staff Sergeant-Major W. Dodgson, Beccles, drill instructor

A shorter entry in the Beccles section on page 272 gives no further details.

There is also a Kelly's directory of Lowestoft, Beccles and neighbourhood for 1914, giving the same data on the same page numbers, with the addition of Leiston to the list of D Squadron's bases in the Lowestoft section.

Unfortunately, the 1909 directory at the Suffolk Record Office in Lowestoft lacks the first 44 pages, which would include the Yeomanry.

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Suffolk / Re: Victorian photographers: Robert Cade, Alfred Henry Cade, John White
« on: Wednesday 04 July 12 15:58 BST (UK)  »
Hello Stormybay

I hope you found what you were looking for in Ipswich last month. I recently came across this announcement in the Ipswich Journal of 12 April 1879 (page 8, column 5):

PHOTOGRAPHY.
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ROBERT CADE,
CORNHILL, IPSWICH,
WHO has received from his Patrons, for the long period of 27 years, such kind and continued support, begs very respectfully to thank them for all past favours.
Finding his health declining, R. C. has entrusted to his sons the responsibility of maintaining the reputation of his Establishment for high-class work.
A. H. CADE has been with R. Cade many years, and shared the cares of the Studio and Printing Departments.
J. WHITE (his son-in-law) has had many years’ experience in Photography, having been for some years manager of a large Establishment in India, and for four years chief operator at the celebrated Establishment of Disdéri and Co., Photographers to the Queen, Brook Street, Hanover Square, and R. C. can with confidence entrust the credit of the Firm to him. Mr. White will be found to be particularly successful with children, who require such care and patience.
R. C. will at all times be most happy to give the benefit of his long experience to any patron in any department of the Establishment.
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ALFRED HENRY CADE AND JOHN WHITE
BEG to inform the Patrons of Robert Cade and the Public that it will ever be their study to maintain the high class work which has made the Photo. Institute so well known in the Eastern Counties, and they trust that by careful and prompt attention to all commissions, they will receive a continuance of the favours so liberally given to R. C.
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The 27 years of Robert's business tally with the date of establishment printed on the back of some of his mounts: 1852. The Cornhill address was presumably 4 Westgate Street (now part of Debenhams), where John White and his family were living in 1881. He was at 18 (Upper) Brook Street (on the southern corner of Butter Market) by 1883 (assuming that he was wrongly named "Mr. G. White" in the Ipswich Journal on 11 Dec.) and placed the attached half-page advertisement in William White's 1885 directory of Suffolk.

The "slightly old-fashioned" design of John White's mounts is illustrated and discussed in "Looking at Old Photographs" (Federation of Family History Societies, 1998, pages 41 & 42) by Robert Pols (creator of the invaluable directories of early studio photographers at http://www.early-photographers.org.uk) who also notes that John may have continued the numerical series formerly used at 18 Brook Street by Walter Azemberg Smith. This series probably commenced when Walter was managing the Artistic Department of the "Italian Studio" at that address for John Robert Sawyer of Norwich, well before taking over the Ipswich business in 1867 (Ipswich Journal 30 March etc.).

Sadly, without a corresponding register of sitters, those numbers don't identify unnamed faces. But, if enough of us can provide dated examples, perhaps at least a rough calendar will emerge. I have a couple of cartes de visite from 18 Brook Street, Ipswich, endorsed with these dates and serial numbers:

19793A by Walter A. Smith: "William Gobbitt about time of his marriage 1866."
William was born in May 1837 and married in Sept. 1866. The studio was still owned by J. R. Sawyer at the beginning of 1867 (Ipswich Journal 23 Feb.) so this print can't be earlier than that, although it may be a reprint, ordered months or even years after the sitting.

57832 by John White: "C. Gobbitt. April 1889."
Or is that 1887? William's daughter Celia Mary was born in Aug. 1868; it's not clear from her portrait whether she was 18 or 20.

As the rarity of such specific dates makes them all the more useful, I would encourage everyone to share any that come to light.

David Gobbitt

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Suffolk Lookup Requests / Re: Blundeston
« on: Sunday 10 June 12 17:01 BST (UK)  »
Hi benrita

Kelly's Suffolk directories don't list every address in Blundeston and I don't see Harefield there in 1933 or 1937 (the latest county directory). However, if your grandmother had Italian connections, you may be interested in Mrs Caterina PARRAVANI & Sons, ice cream manufacturers, who were at The Nook, Blundeston, in 1937 (but not 1933).

I think you really need someone to look at the electoral register for 1938.

Best of luck
David

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Suffolk Lookup Requests / Re: Suffolk Poll Request please
« on: Sunday 10 June 12 16:01 BST (UK)  »
Hi Judyjay

Better late than never, if not too early ...

The 1674 Hearth Tax returns include a Jo[hn] ROE at Henley. He and Jo[hn] WILKENSON shared a property with two hearths. That's pretty minimal, and fewer than another WILKENSON (forename not recorded) who had two hearths in a property shared with two other people or households (TAYLOR and KINGE) who had one each. These last three were among those certified as too poor to pay the tax, unlike John ROE.

David

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Researching the Suffolk Yeomanry in the 1900s, it would be very useful to have details of the officers and sergeant majors of D Squadron from Kelly's Lowestoft directories. I understand that the 1909 and 1913 editions are held by the Lowestoft branch of the Suffolk Record Office.

Kelly's directory of Suffolk for 1908 has this entry under TERRITORIAL FORCE in Lowestoft (p. 296):

Suffolk Yeomanry (Duke of York's Own Loyal Suffolk Hussars), Detachment of D Squadron; Major M. Barne, commanding; Capt. F. H. Courage, second in command; Squad.-Sergt.-Major Luxton, Beccles, drill instructor

The SSM [Alfred Henry Luxton (1869-1952)] is named as Harry Luxton in a similar entry on p. 43, under Beccles.

In the 1904 county directory (p. 291) the heading is IMPERIAL YEOMANRY and the Lowestoft detachment is said to belong to "C" Squadron (presumably an error) with Major R. O. Kerrison commanding; Capt. M. "Barnes" (another error) second in command; and Staff-Sergt.-Major Luxton, Beccles, drill instructor.

C Squadron's lieutenants are listed in Kelly's directories of the Ipswich neighbourhood, so I would also expect D Squadron's junior officers to be mentioned in the Lowestoft editions.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help.

David

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Thank you very much, Anne. Your kindness and diligence have confirmed that Sutton WATCHAM, born at Mendlesham on 1 Oct. 1789, was later known as Sutton Charles (or just Charles) WATCHAM, who died at Northampton on 16 Nov. 1867. This makes him more than likely to be the previously unidentified subject of a memorial photograph (with b. and d. dates but no name) in John Hannavy's collection at http://www.luminous-lint.com/app/image/73858502473237244836004.

Sutton was the only 78-year-old man I could find in England and Wales with that date of death in the probate indexes. His widow Elizabeth died in Mayfair in 1873. They had farmed at Naseby, Northamptonshire, in the 1850s but she was at Mendlesham by 1861, when Sutton was in Mayfair visiting his daughter Anna GOODE (c.1820-1893; m. 1857, widow of William PARSONS).

Thanks again for your valuable assistance.

David

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