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Flintshire / Re: Wills- Youde family
« on: Sunday 12 April 09 18:22 BST (UK)  »
Dear Maidmarion. Thanks for that, what an amazing lot of info in one place. I have not heard of it before. All credit to the lady who put it all together too, an unbelievable amount of work. Regard Alan Williams

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Flintshire / Re:John Youd 1791
« on: Sunday 12 April 09 13:17 BST (UK)  »
Dear William. I have now checked that entry which I got mixed up. Please have a look at the message I have sent to Jean Ellison where I have put the correct version. Cheers Alan

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Flintshire / Re: Wills- Youde family
« on: Sunday 12 April 09 13:14 BST (UK)  »
Dear Jean. Thanks for your help with Ellen, I haven't got anywhere up to now.

Odd bits I have about Youds are;- From the IGI there were 2 Ellens born in 1772 and 1778 in West Kirby who could fit. Their fathers are Henry and William. West Kirby seems a long way from Dodleston but in the buriels in 1857 and 1865 there are 2 Parrys from Birkenhead so there seems to have been a connection with the Wirral.

I went through the Hope baptism indexes from 1668 to 1770 but found no Youds there. In Buriels 7/5/1788 is Anne Youd age 61 abode Frwmryd.

The entry that I got mixed up with in my note to William is in the marriages; Full text

28/12/1791 John Youd age 26 bachelor son of Thomas and Anne of Doddleston married Mary Chambers age 18 spinster daughter of Charles and Mary of Shordley. Witnesses Samuel Lawrence and Mary Philips.

In Hope baptisms 1781 to 1812 are 12 entries of Youds which you probably have already but please say if you need them and I will gladly send them. One I noticed was 17/9/1812 Ralph Nickson born to William and Anne (Widow) of Hope Owen.

In a book I saw in Harwarden RO 'Dodleston- history of a Marcher Parish' page 89 mentions Thomas Youd bricklayer.

Bye for now Alan.

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Flintshire / Re: Wills- Youde family again
« on: Wednesday 08 April 09 11:50 BST (UK)  »
Dear William, Me again. I have just read what I sent yesterday. I had copied from my rough notes and can't now see how I got a birth of John mixed up with the marriages. It is dated 28/12/1797 and must be the birth of John or it would have had Anne's nee name. I think I may have seen the marriage somewhere else and mixed up the notes. I will check as soon as I can.

Going through old notes again I found in Doddleston births 2/12/1799 Anne daughter of John Youd farmer of H.K. Later I found she married someone called Tisncock or something like that.

In H.K. census 1851 is Mary Youd 77 widow, farmer of 67 acres born Mold. Also there is son Samuel 36 and his wife Elizabeth 29 from Pulford Cheshire and their children Margaret 9, George 4 and John 3 all born H.K. plus a grandson Thomas Davies 9 born Dudley Staffs.

So maybe John 1797 was a brother of your William 1794, again I will chech when I can.

Bye for now Alan


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Flintshire / Youds pre 1837
« on: Tuesday 07 April 09 18:29 BST (UK)  »
Dear William. All I have is the marr. of Richard Parry my ggg.grandfather to Ellen Youd 12/10/1795 which is in doddleston/Higher Kinnerton parish records which are at Chester RO, Duke St. Chester CH1 1RL phone 01244 602574. You need an appointment.

I could not find anymore in the above records about Ellen or other Youds so I guess they were from another parish or were non-conformists etc. Higher Kinnerton had parts in Hope parish as well as Doddleston.

The info. about John Youd I got from indexes to Hope P.R.s in Mold Public library among other places. In the index to marr. 1780 to 1812 on page 51 is John born to Thomas and Anne of Doddleston by License.

Doing it by license suggests that one or both may have been from other parishes or there was some hurry or they just preferred that.

The next time I get around to it I will look for youds again working from the info. you have given me. The best place to look at Hope records is Harwarden RO, Tjhe Old Rectory, Harwarden. CH5 3NR tel 01244 532364. Again an appt. is needed.

Hope this is some help, I will get back to you when/if I get anymore. Good searching Alan


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Warwickshire / BAYLIS from Birmingham to Cumberland
« on: Sunday 22 March 09 17:55 GMT (UK)  »
In Carlisle in 1871 is a Thomas Baylis age 24, a hairdresser and his wife Harriet A,  both from Birmingham.
My interest is a Thomas Baylis who first appears in 1770 when he marries Mary Ritson in Maryport CUM. He is my g.g.g.grandfather and he appears to be the only Baylis in Cumberland at that time and apart from his family who were still in that area another 150 years there are no other Baylis's except the above in Carlisle.
I am trying to find where my T.B. came from originally. Does anyone know of any connection between the hairdresser and my lot who were all mariners.
I know Baylis is a well established name in the Midlands and appreiciate any help.
Thank you. A.Williams

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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Re: Humber shipbuilding about 1826 - barque EMMA
« on: Tuesday 17 March 09 13:10 GMT (UK)  »
To ecneps and gillywilly. Thanks for your help with this. I did get onto the museum 3 years ago and they put me on to the university who said they could get research done by a student for a minimum £25 to which I happily agreed. But nothing happened and about a year later I phoned and was put onto someone else there who said he would get it done. I phoned and emailed a few times but despite assurances they would do it nothing happened.
So I gave up and as I live in North Wales I haven't got over there to do it myself.
I have had a quick look in the newspaper archives but not got anything yet but there are lot more I can look at so will keep trying.
Thanks again Alan

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Cumberland / Re: Margaret WRIGHT born c 1782 ABBEY??? married Thomas BAYLIS
« on: Tuesday 17 March 09 12:31 GMT (UK)  »
Dear Geoffe, Brilliant ; :)brilliant :)brilliant :) Thats her, everything fits, all ages, Thomas's job, the address, widow. All tallies with her death cert. in 1862 and the 51 and 71 censuses.
I have been stuck with this query about Abbey for six years but now I can go through the OPRs and non-conformists etc. again knowing I am in the right parish.
So many thanks to you and to Roots and also to Emms who put out a list of seamen on benefit in the 1822 Cumb. Packet where I found Thomas Baylis the grandfather of the one in 1861 census.
That's a lesson for me - I should have searched through the whole 1861 census.
Thanks again Alan Williams.

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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Humber shipbuilding about 1826 - barque EMMA
« on: Thursday 12 March 09 17:07 GMT (UK)  »
Can anyone help with this please.
My g.grandfather sailed on a barque called EMMA as seaman in 1845. In Lloyd's register for 1845 she is listed as built in Hull 1826, 308 (or 380)tons, owner T Smith. At that time she was registered in Scarborough and did a trip Liverpool to Sydney and back while my g.g was onboard.
Any info about the ship or shipbuilding about then would help. All I get on the net is about fishing vessels and tugs
Thank you Alan Williams. 

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