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Good Morning,

I have another photo I would like help in dating. It is of a similar size to the photo in my first post https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=813751.0 at 6x4.5 inches, but this one has a cardboard type frame 10x8 inches.

This photo also came from my Grandad and I know his Parents/Grandparents all lived just north of Alnwick and around Wooler from the early 1800s and with family still living in the area today.

There are no clues as to who it may be and the children and teacher are all in fancy dress for some reason, which may or may not help you date it!

it's so frustrating looking at these old, potential family photos and not being able to identify anyone!

Thanks again

Gaz


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I'd think it's 1912-1915ish but could be a few years later.

See this:

http://www.barlingwakeringvillages.co.uk/plus/GtWakMillsSch4.jpg

PS - (Dated 1912)
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... Great Wakering Old School Boys and Girls Class with two female teachers c1912 ...

Good Morning all

thank you everyone for the links (thanks Gadget) and all your estimations. As most of my Great Grandparents were born 1890-1900 and my own Grandparents in the late 1920s early 1930s this could possibly be from my GG Grandfathers time as school manager. (to my best estimation!)

I have 3 more different school photos, again all from my Grandad, which i'll upload shortly. Is it best to add them to this thread or create a new post for each?


Thanks

Gaz

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Hi Wiggy,

So more likely related to my Great Great Grandad and his time as School Manager from 1912-1925, as that would match your time frame a little more.

Gaz

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Hi,

could anyone help me in possibly dating this photo, it is on a cardboard type backing with no other details. It came from my Grandad (born 1933) and could possibly contain his Dad Thomas William Renner as a child (born 1892) living at South Charlton, near Alnwick or perhaps taken by his Grandad Thomas James Renner (born 1858) when he was manager of his local school Chillingham, from 1912 to around 1925.

A possible date may help narrow it down to either one of the above, or of course it may not relate to any of them and I'll have to look for other possible connections. My Grandads Family all lived in the North of Northumberland.

Thanks for the help.

Gaz

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Scotland / Re: Adoption Certificate DoB
« on: Sunday 26 May 19 08:23 BST (UK)  »
I took a gamble and ordered the Birth Certificate for Winifred Violet Smith after my disappointing news the other day and it has arrived!!

Did you notice, it arrived a day later (24 May) than the birth date of her mother Eileen/Helen which was 23 May (105 yrs earlier)...meant to be found  ;D

Annie

Ha, no i didn't! I think you're right though

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Scotland / Re: Adoption Certificate DoB
« on: Sunday 26 May 19 08:22 BST (UK)  »
It really is faint, but gave me some extra clues in tracking and confirming the family details.

in how they appear on the record

Hilda Maud    (later changed spelling to Hylda Maude)
Alfred Albert  (Born Albert James, but would seem preferred Alfred)
Gilbert
Ileen Helen Margaret (Born Helen Margaret, later dropped Helen for Eileen)
Ronald Walsh

the DoBs also look to have been crossed out and amended.

There seems to be a thing with James dates, they always seems to be out by a year! The childrens DoBs (before being corrected) and his own age on his service record. (said he was 34 but was actually 35, his birthday having been less than a month earlier) And on James birth register his parents have their marriage as 7 Jun 1874 when the actual marriage entry has 7 June 1873!

I never really believed the story about her father, just thought of it as a (harsh!) way of explaining the reason for adoption.

I'm getting closer to discovering the fathers family through someone in Australia who has been doing lots of work on the DNA side, connecting all his matches. It was him who keeps making the connection between Ross and Cattanach from who we (and several others) are connected.

Yes found James, Mary, Hilda M, Alfred J and Gilbert living at Whitehill, Peterhead where James is a "Coachman (Domestic)" and confirming Mary was born in Ireland.

Its been a good couple of days building a new branch for my Family Tree!

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Scotland / Re: Adoption Certificate DoB
« on: Saturday 25 May 19 13:54 BST (UK)  »
Here is the page detailing James family from his service records, you can see how faint "Helen Margaret" is after E(i)Leen which wasn't visible on Ancestry.

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Scotland / Re: Adoption Certificate DoB
« on: Saturday 25 May 19 13:32 BST (UK)  »
FOLD3 have FREE access until Tues i.e. worth a look at their war records as they may be clearer?

Middle names aren't always associated with family but very often are!

I wonder if...Eileen was a Nurse in the very hospital she gave birth?  :-\

Have you found Eileen's BC? If born in Scotland the marriage details of her parents will be included, date/place?

Did you have a 2nd wine...I would have after all that excitement  ;D

Annie

I definitely did have a second glass of wine, and perhaps some more!

Thank you for that, i'll have a look at FOLD3, but the images on FindMyPast to Ancestry are like night and day!

I bet she did have my Gran where she was working. Funny coincidence my Gran was later a Nurse and so is my Wife. I think my Gran would have loved to know that her Mum was also a Nurse.
 
Yes I found it eventually (missing Eileen but matching all other details) and it does state that they married in London. I'll upload it shortly...

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Scotland / Re: Adoption Certificate DoB
« on: Saturday 25 May 19 10:23 BST (UK)  »
I know that you are not allowed to change the given name of an older child when you adopt, but I believe that you are still free to rename a baby on adoption (i.e. before (s)he is old enough to recognise his/her name - there is probably some legal number of months after which the original name must be kept) so there is absolutely nothing to say that Winifred was her birth name.

It would seem my Grans adopted parents didn't like the Violet or Air of my Grans Birth name, kept Winifred and gave her a new middle name of Jane after her adopted Mum.

Which reminds me when my youngest was born I was going to use both Grandmothers names as middle names and my Gran rung me up when she found out and told me to use her second name Jane as she preferred it to Winifred!

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