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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Ellen Elena BUTLER
« on: Tuesday 18 May 10 23:34 BST (UK) »
Yes that is the same John Shufflebottom who is my great great grandfather.
we have been told that when his daughter Harriett Ann married Albert Phillips, who was of aboriginal descent, her family ostracised her and the only one of her family who ever had anything to do with her after her marriage to Albert was her sister Mary Irwin, who died the year after Harriett died.
we would really like to find out so much more than just the generations from John and Ellen and Albert and Harriett, my husband has his maternal family tree right back to the late 1700s, taken from parish records in england because the church there still had all their records of births, baptisms, marriages and deaths, and the family seemed to stay in the same village, or close to it for generations, however my family in australia seemed to keep moving, and we just dont know where to start looking for those left behind in England and Ireland without going to great expense (for us) of paying subscription fees to the various online service that may be able to help us. We have also found over the years that although we are willing to pass our own family tree info on to anybody else in the family who asks for it, we so often find that other family members tell nothing, almost as if they believe that to keep it to themselves it gives them some power, but we continue to share, and just wish others would, have you come across things similar, there are really no such things as secrets in family history, because if you know it, somebody else will eventually find it, but it takes perseverance we have found, and dead end streets are a challenge, and your group are making things so much easier for us, just with the stuff you have given us today, that has confirmed things we had without any evidence, and given us hope at last that we can continue back past the 1840s and John James and his marriage to Ellen/Emma.
we have been told that when his daughter Harriett Ann married Albert Phillips, who was of aboriginal descent, her family ostracised her and the only one of her family who ever had anything to do with her after her marriage to Albert was her sister Mary Irwin, who died the year after Harriett died.
we would really like to find out so much more than just the generations from John and Ellen and Albert and Harriett, my husband has his maternal family tree right back to the late 1700s, taken from parish records in england because the church there still had all their records of births, baptisms, marriages and deaths, and the family seemed to stay in the same village, or close to it for generations, however my family in australia seemed to keep moving, and we just dont know where to start looking for those left behind in England and Ireland without going to great expense (for us) of paying subscription fees to the various online service that may be able to help us. We have also found over the years that although we are willing to pass our own family tree info on to anybody else in the family who asks for it, we so often find that other family members tell nothing, almost as if they believe that to keep it to themselves it gives them some power, but we continue to share, and just wish others would, have you come across things similar, there are really no such things as secrets in family history, because if you know it, somebody else will eventually find it, but it takes perseverance we have found, and dead end streets are a challenge, and your group are making things so much easier for us, just with the stuff you have given us today, that has confirmed things we had without any evidence, and given us hope at last that we can continue back past the 1840s and John James and his marriage to Ellen/Emma.