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Its true that they have a son William H Morris.

But remember his father is Arthur (H) Henry Morris and his Grandfather William (H) Henry Morris

So the H would most likely stand for Henry.

Remember not to confuse Horace Eade (William Eade) With William Morris.


Maybe the fact that both fathers were called WILLIAM was why they wrote Horace.

Jaymee

Thanks Igor i was hoping you would do that  !


Thanks Coombs i have said a few times that she had the full name Catherine (not sure of spelling) but was only called Kate.

Isn't it true that people lied all the time about their ages and who was living in the house for personal reason or they just didnt know?


Arthur Morris had a high position in the town by all accounts at the time, My 70 yo aunts words "he was a very respected man"

which i take to mean didnt have to take on a love child if he didnt want to.

Arthur was a railway conductor and his father the former railway station master.

ooooooooooor......The names of father's are written the wrong way round and its Willian Eade and Horace Morris (lol).

Just to add: Sorry i dont have the papers myself they are in Austrlaia with my aunt and mum and BOTH can hardly type an email so them scanning this is one for the record books.

Jaymee

Thanks Igor!

I just wanted to make sure that you all know how thankyou i am for your help and i dont take you for granted.

But enough of the soppy stuff.

I am ordering the birth cert for Millicent right now.  Thankyou for the gro number.


I have been rereading through the thread just to take in all the infomation and just want to talk about:

This which EC posted:

Millie B Eade b. Dec 1912 mother maiden name Eade

Kate Eade m. Arthur H Morris Dec 1913

Both Hackney

then:

Births Dec 1914
Morris    William H   mmn  Eade    - district Paddington    vol 1a   page 63

both these are right


Then:

Ellen Eade age 50  (mother) charwoman born Ipswich
Kate Eade age 21  (born 1880) Tailoress
Lizzie Eade age 19  (sister)
Annie Eade age 12  (sister)
Rose Eade age 8  (sister)

Let's say this Ellen is kate's mujm, i never new Kate's mother's name. But then we have the leap of faith

Coombs posted:

Ellen's late husband was William Eade, born in Little Bromley, Essex according to the 1891 census.

then :

If the 1901 and 1891 censuses mentioned earlier are the right Kate, then this looks like her in the 1881 census on FamilySearch:
2 Ada Place London MDX
EADE
Wm, Head, 32, b Essex, Boot Finisher
Ellen, Wife, 29, b Ipswich
Arthur, Son, 8, b Shoreditch
Ellen M, Daur, 3, b St Lukes
Kate, Daur, 1, b Shoreditch

Births of children from FreeBMD:
Arthur Dec qtr 1872 Shoredtich
Ellen Mary Jun qtr 1877 Holborn
Kate Dec qtr 1879 Shoreditch
Lizzie Mar qtr 1882 Bethnal Green
Annie Jun qtr 1889 Bethnal Green
Rose Mar qtr 1893 Hackney

And perhaps the parents' marriage
Dec qtr 1871 Islington
William EADE
Ellen JEFFORD on the same page

posted by JAP.

Soooo how does a man forget his name is William and call himself Horace?

And to you think this is solid enough to change Horace to william for my searches?

What would you do?

Seeing as Horace doesnt exist?  But Horace is named as father of the bride.


Jaymee

Thanks Jap,

But i think its a stretch to say that word is "shoe"  even though i would love to fall on that like a starving dog.

But i can see SIEVE and i searched for "what is a sieve maker"

AND got:

Sieve Maker: Makes and repairs sieves used in flour sifting machines, using handtools: Tacks cotton cloth lining onto frame and stretches and staples wire screen across bottom. Places free-moving cloth pads in frame. Stretches and tacks silk cloth across top of frame. Tacks strips of cotton flannel around outer sides of frame so sieve fits snugly into machine. Removes and replaces defective parts of damaged sieves. May also be designated according to function as Sieve Repairer (feed industry).

As teh job exist i dont think we can ignore it.


By the way i just want to say i am sorry if i am boring you all with this and please just tell me if you want me to stop posting about it.

I hope i am not making you all feel obligated to help, i know its interesting to me because its my family history.

But all your help is received with the utmost gratitude.

Jaymee