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Hi, Yes....James Drummond! I went through the hoops in search of an answer, The answer being there is no answer  What I find so sad is that the headstones are in pieces and, being soft stone, the text is being 'blown off' with every winter. I'm a direct line down from William Gott and every now and again I try to establish where he came from and why. I have an idea but not yet proven. 

I had a sudden realisation that if Carol Rice was adopted it would be entered in the birth register so was in the process of ordering from GRO and decided to do a death search. I've no idea why nothing has shown up previously elsewhere but I had a result.....

Carol Rice, QD 1944 (age 3 years but probably a transcription error, likely 3 months), Caernarvon, Vol 11B, p403.

I've ordered the death certificate so hopefully it will help with the Jones family search.

The story becomes yet more tragic!

Regards,

Colin

I made an early start! I've found two distinct Walter Amans, both born 1916 and died 1990! Number 1 can be tracked birth, parents, census, newspaper and death to Medicine Hat, Alberta. Number 2 is interesting in that I can't find any record until voters' list 49,53, and 58 in Nanaimo, Vancouver Island British Columbia, and death 6/12/1990, Nanaimo.

Probably coincidence but interesting that he appears in 49 shortly after she arrived.

I can't view the documents but would they provide more information? As this Veronica is dead is it now acceptable to post on the Canada board?

I've followed through on the trees on Ancestry and have mailed the owner of a very relevant Williams tree. I've fingers crossed on a helpful response but the account has been inactive for 10 years!

It indicates that prior to Mary Ann Jones' marriage to Robert Williams she gave birth (no father) to Richard Owen Jones, 11 April 1924 (Caernarvon, 11b, 658 fits) at Pembroke House, Penygroes. It also states that he had one brother! No more information.

Thanks all.

Apologies...Friday evening so now I can catch up. I find that I now have two projects; one backwards and the other forwards!

Backwards. Roger, you are spot on with the problem. I'm coming to the conclusion that ages and DOBs are highly suspect. The age relies on the accuracy of the newspaper report. We had to 'interpret' the real name. I still believe that your discovery of the sister's address holds the answer.

Robert Williams m. Mary Ann Jones. Birth records of offspring confirm mmn. Jones.

There was a Mary Ann Jones born Q4 1902 Carnarvon district (that would include LLanllyfni) 11b, 849.

Robert Williams m Mary A Jones Q2, 1927 Carnarvon district 11b, 849.

The Williams tree shows Mary Ann Jones born 20/2/1903, 6 Tram Road, Penygroes.

I've been in contact with the Williams tree owner who has given me a contact for more info...I'll email over the weekend.

The 1911 census at 7 Old Tram Road shows Richard Jones, b 1880, LLanllyfni. Daughter Mary, aged 8, b. 1903. Wife Mary, aged 29, b 1882 LLanwnda.

The problem is that the interesting birth records don't give a mmn! 

Forward...thanks Rosie and support! 

I have that item on file. It didn't fit.

I'll keep trying!