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Canada / Re: emigration 1872 - what's the best way forward?
« on: Tuesday 07 August 07 09:38 BST (UK)  »
Good idea JJ and I went to have a look as well, but it seems to me there is only one who fits in the 1901 and he was born in Canada.

Another one bites the dust!

However, I have been spurred on by the 1911 census that aghadowey got me on to, which gives date and month for birth (May 1839). Then I checked up my notes and found that I already knew from the marriage cert that Jane (Jeanie)'s father was James R from Ayr, and mother's name was Jane. So, on to the IGI and I found a most likely birth - Jane, 12th May 1839, Kirkmichael, Ayr, to James Robertson and Jane Morton.

So, from the OPRs I should be able to find any siblings starting with A... And then maybe be able to find him on a ship index? That may be a lead. Of course he may well be a cousin, uncle, distant relative, no relation at all... Sigh!

Jo

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Canada / Re: emigration 1872 - what's the best way forward?
« on: Monday 06 August 07 13:22 BST (UK)  »
Hi there

Just gone and done that - wow, the 1911 census indexing has come on since I last looked!  Yes - 1872 is given as the date of immigration. Thanks fo rtelling me about that

Jo

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Canada / emigration 1872 - what's the best way forward?
« on: Monday 06 August 07 12:49 BST (UK)  »
Hi there

I have my widowed gtx3 uncle Matthew CURRIE and son arriving in Quebec (from London) on the Hector, 11th June 1872. That's all sorted. I know lots about him in Canada too (with a lot of help from people on this great site, it has to be said).

The bit that I need to fill in is the emigration of his 32 year-old wife Jane ROBERTSON. They married in Perth, Ontario, on 18th October 1872, but before then she had been his servant/housekeeper in Twickenham, London (1871 census).

I've been through the Hector list and she isn't on the same ship. I would have thought it unlikely that she should emigrate on her own. One clue is that an A Robertson was a witness to their marriage so it is possible that she emigrated with a brother? She was born in Ayr, so maybe she went home first and sailed from Glasgow rather than London.

I assume she must be on the Canada Archives images somewhere. Is it just a case of starting with early October 1872 arrivals at Quebec and working my way backwards going through every image? Is there any other way of narrowing down the search?

Many thanks for any advice

Jo

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Kirkcudbrightshire / Re: 1841 CURRIE, a lost family!
« on: Thursday 02 August 07 10:10 BST (UK)  »
Well, that does look extremely interesting... I know that ages are often wonky on the 1841 census, but they aren't too far out and the order of offspring is correct which is the important thing. I wonder if John Snr had died and that precipitated the emigration?

Puzzled that Robert was missing though - he definitely went to Canada along with David, Andrew and James and, we think, mother Margaret and the mystery ink-blot sister (no sign of her name alas) - but he could have been staying with an older sister or brother, couldn't he? He would actually have been 11 in the 1841, I'm realising, as his birth was in November. Similarly David was aged 8, as he was born in June, so that tallies with your Carluke find.

Thanks very much indeed Joe. Best lead so far by miles...

Jo

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Kirkcudbrightshire / 1841 CURRIE, a lost family!
« on: Thursday 02 August 07 00:13 BST (UK)  »
I would have thought I would be bound to find this family on the 1841 as I have so many names, but I spent ages in the fam hist centre today with all the Kirkcudbrightshire 1841 booklets and failed to find them. If anyone has access to the 1841 and could be bothered to have a look, that would be great.

Of course they may have moved on from Kirkcudbrightshire - last known birth was 1832 in Balmaclellan, other births dotted around in Balmaclellan, Parton and Kirkpatrick Durham, only 2 subsequent births in the same place - suspect ag labs, perhaps?

At least the 4 youngest children, and possibly the parents too and other siblings, emigrated to Canada, supposedly in 1849, so they should be around somewhere in the 1841 if that emigration date is correct.

1841 ages:
John CURRIE
Margaret CURRIE, nee McCartney, b 1790, so age approx 51
Janet b 1815, age 26
George b 1817, age 24
John b 1819, age 22
William b 1822, age 19
? female (large ink blot over her name!) b 1825, age 16
James b 1827, age 14
Robert, b 1829 age 12
David b 1832 age 9

Apparently there was another brother too called Andrew. James is described in the OPR as "fifth son", so that would make Andrew older than him and from the dates really could only be squeezed in between William and ? female (I would so like to find her name!) or right at the beginning of the family, ie before Janet.

Any help most gratefully received

many thanks

Jo

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Gloucestershire Lookup Requests / Re: Bristol marriage 1828 - any records for that date?
« on: Monday 30 April 07 11:52 BST (UK)  »
Hi Trish

Yes you can be very lucky with Scottish records depending on who was doing the register. The best I ever found was a death record which gave cause of death, age, birth place and date, name of parents, dates of deaths of parents and death date of sister. All in the late 1700s! The reason was that the deaths had all occurred within a reasonably short space of time and the recorder felt it was sufficiently interesting to make a detailed note. Priceless information as with married surnames I would never have known they were all related.

Many thanks again for your help

Jo

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Gloucestershire Lookup Requests / Re: Bristol marriage 1828 - any records for that date?
« on: Monday 30 April 07 09:29 BST (UK)  »
Aha OK, thanks Trish. So they would have both been living there, but that is no indication of their original birthplace.

If marriage records at that time are anything like up here in Scotland, there is unlikely to be any more detail unfortunately, unless anyone knows differently?

If I could just get an occupation that would link him in!

No children apparently to that couple on the IGI but I know there are big gaps...

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Gloucestershire Lookup Requests / Re: Bristol marriage 1828 - any records for that date?
« on: Monday 30 April 07 09:03 BST (UK)  »
Thanks very much Joburg! I take it that otp means "outside this parish"?

Are there likely to be any other details in the actual register or would that be it? Unfortunately it slightly puts the kybosh on my hope that I had found the family in the 1861 census living in Paddington, as the wife's name is Elizabeth there (though he might have remarried I suppose), but the date looks good. You could call yourself recently married after 6 months or so..

From the letter John LAURIE was a man of reasonable means in 1828. No occupation as such, although he is described as "a public servant". No indication of age, just the recent marriage.

If they were both from outside the parish then there is no guarantee that they continued to live anywhere near Bristol, and with no knowledge of where they came from and fairly common names, it is going to be pretty impossible to track them.

Thanks again for your help. It looks like one of those wild goose chases again!

Jo

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Gloucestershire Lookup Requests / Bristol marriage 1828 - any records for that date?
« on: Sunday 29 April 07 23:26 BST (UK)  »
Hi there

Do such marriage records exist?

I know from a letter that a John LAURIE married, probably to Elizabeth (surname unknown). The marriage definitely took place in 1828, before July 14th, as it is mentioned in the letter as having just happened.

Would be very grateful if anyone can tell me if this is a wild goose chase, and would be ecstatic if anyone can tell me any details.

Many thanks

Jo

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