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Europe / Re: Robinson family - NETHERLANDS
« on: Tuesday 23 August 22 07:57 BST (UK)  »
Thanks again for the feedback. it seems William Preston married twice, as Elizabeth is too young to be the mother of 19 year old William in the 1861 census.

I do think the marriage you found for Charles Robinson and Margaret Brockland was the right one, especially given the place of birth for their son James in 1841

And the details in the 1841 census seem to fit to. Could Charles have already gone to Rotterdam? Or was he away working? When he married Hannah Coulson in 1841, his occupation was commercial traveller.

This family sure has proven to be interesting :-)

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Europe / Re: Robinson family - NETHERLANDS
« on: Monday 22 August 22 08:58 BST (UK)  »
Thanks John, that fits. Charles remarried to Hannah Coulson in 1851. Their marriage certificate described him as a widower.

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Europe / Re: Robinson family - NETHERLANDS
« on: Monday 22 August 22 00:35 BST (UK)  »
Wow, leen, this information is gold! It shows the name of Charles Robinson's first wife, Margaret Brockbank - when I had married him off to someone else! Disaster averted. Now I can go back and find the rest of their family born in England. Thanks so much!

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Europe / Re: Robinson family - NETHERLANDS
« on: Sunday 21 August 22 22:48 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for finding this document, TreeSpirit, it's good to have the relationship confirmed.

leen, many thanks for finding Charles Robinson in Antwerp. I hadn't even considered another location. I had been wondering what he was doing in the Netherlands - now I know.

I'm finding these records difficult to understand at times but I'm so glad they kept such good ones. Generally I can work out what the headings mean in most documents.

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Europe / Re: Robinson family - NETHERLANDS
« on: Saturday 20 August 22 21:40 BST (UK)  »
ShaunJ and fiddlerslass, a belated huge thank you! It's certainly been interesting putting this family together. I never could have done it without your help.

I'm not sure about the James Robinson who died in 1856 in Rotterdam being Charles's father. It seems likely but the Netherlands site threw up a lot of Robinsons in Rotterdam. Still some work for me to do here.

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Europe / Re: Robinson family - NETHERLANDS
« on: Friday 19 August 22 12:35 BST (UK)  »
Well that's a shock - a third wife!

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Europe / Re: Robinson family - NETHERLANDS
« on: Friday 19 August 22 11:20 BST (UK)  »
Wow, thanks so much ShaunJ, I never would have found this info. It will take me some to time to make sense of it all. It looks like the children were from Charles's first marriage so that should help in identifying his first wife. It makes sense for Hannah to die in Darlington as that as where she was born and her brother and his family lived. And I need to find out what Charles was doing n Croft.
Fantastic info!
Jan

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Europe / Robinson family - NETHERLANDS
« on: Friday 19 August 22 07:32 BST (UK)  »
I've just stumbled across the death of a child on 23 April 1853 in Rotterdam, father Charles Robinson, mother Hannah Coulson on Ancestry (also found it on FamilySearch).

Being completely unfamiliar with these records I'm at a loss to follow this up.

I have the parents' marriage info:
Charles Robinson, full age, widower, commercial traveller, res St Saviours Southwark , father James Robinson, gentleman
Hannah Coulson, full age, spinster, res St Saviours Southwark, father Thomas Coulson flax dresser
Wits George Coulson Catherine Green

and suspect they may have remained/died in the Netherlands as they disappeared from English records.

Can anyone help?

Jan

 



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Scotland / What I didn't know about searching on ScotlandsPeople
« on: Tuesday 12 July 22 07:58 BST (UK)  »
A couple of days ago, after searching for the death of James Henderson in 1938, I downloaded the certificate for a death in Dundee. This certificate had deaths for George Cook Nichol, James Moir and Williamina Mackenzie Allan but no James Henderson. I contacted ScotlandsPeople who promptly replied with information about searches:

"... whilst it may not be the individual you are seeking, it is technically correct. To explain, all individuals may be indexed under any name they may have been known as at any point in their life."

"All females are indexed under both their maiden and married name at death (if applicable). This is because a woman never actually loses her maiden name even when taking her husband’s name at marriage, something she is not obliged to do - she is technically the same person she was at birth."

I knew this ... but

"In the same way - if a child was born what was then termed ‘illegitimate’, he/ she would be indexed under both the mother’s maiden name and the father’s name (if known). If the mother then married another man the child would additionally be indexed under the stepfather’s name, as well as that of any further stepfathers should the mother marry more than once."

I never knew that!

The James Moir death recorded his father as James Moir, ploughman, deceased, and his mother as Isabella Swinton, farm worker, afterwards married to William Henderson, railway surfaceman foreman, deceased.  So it fit the criteria outlined above.

Hope this helps others who have seemingly unrelated results to their search.

I did have my 6 credits refunded. :-)

Jan



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