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Scotland / Re: Census - enumerated twice???
« on: Monday 30 May 11 15:11 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Mick, Sancti and Anne.

You have convinced me that I am not going mad - which is always a good thing!  :)

Cheers,
Clare

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Scotland / Census - enumerated twice???
« on: Monday 30 May 11 14:23 BST (UK)  »
Hi there,

I am looking at 2 slightly baffling 1881 census records just now.  Baffling as I am sure the same person appears on both of them - therefore has been double counted!  Is this possible?

The person in question is one Archibald LOGAN who was born in 1835, so will be approximately 45 at the time of the census.  I know the name of his parents and his wife and children.  I also know from his will and the valuation rolls from 1894/1895 that he owned a house at Mill Row, New Monkland Parish at the same time as leasing Cameron Farm which is close by.

So, to the censuses which I have viewed on both SP and Ancestry...

At Cameron Farmhouse (651/02 002/00 004 and 005), Archibald is shown as a Farmer of 100 acres, along with his mother Elizabeth and 2 sisters.

But, he is also shown at the house at Mill Row (651/02 005/00 008) with his wife Mary and their 4 children - all details are again correct.  He is shown again as a farmer of 100 acres.

So... is it possible he made it from the farm to  the second house before the enumerator?  Or could whoever gave the information to the enumerator have been incorrect when he/she said he was there (when in fact he was at the other house)?

I guess I am just trying to make sure that I am not going mad and he does actually appear on the census twice  ???

Thanks,
Clare

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Lanarkshire / New Monkland MIs - LOGAN burials?
« on: Monday 30 May 11 13:38 BST (UK)  »
Hi all,

I was wondering if some kind soul had the New Monkland parish MIs, and if they would be willing to do a lookup for me?

I am looking for any burials for the Logan family that were farmers at Cameron and Cauldhame Farms in the north of the parish.

The names I have in particular are of 3 brothers who moved to the parish at some point between 1796 and 1841.  Their names are:
William LOGAN, born in 1787
Peter LOGAN, born in 1791
James LOGAN, born in 1796

There is a fourth brother (Joseph, born in 1794) , but I haven't come across him at either of the farms.  There is one in the 1841 census at Millcroft (or Milncroft) farm which is a little further north than Cameron and Cauldhame, so I guess it is a possibility that he was in the area too.


I know James died in 1856 as I have his death certificate.

Not sure if their parents moved with them or remained in Old Kilpatrick, Dunbartonshire.  They were David LOGAN and Janet DREW.  I can see a death for 1815 on SP (in the Mortcloth records that they have now scanned) for  a Janet LOGAN, but info is so scarce I have no idea if it is her or not.

All help on finding any MIs for the 3 brothers would be great.

Thanks again
Clare

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Hi there,

Linda - that is brilliant! It sounds like quite a place.

Monica - that would make Miss Worthington around 18 when she won the prize, which sounds like it might be  about right, probably at the end of her education.

I think next time I am at New Register House, I'll have a wee check on her!

Cheers,
Clare

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Lanarkshire / Re: Mosshouse, New Monkland - where is it?
« on: Thursday 05 May 11 22:16 BST (UK)  »
Hi all,

Huge thanks to Sancti, Monica and Anne!  I've now found it on Google Maps Streetview and located it in old maps.  More to  the point, I have been able to show the other half the location of where his granny grew up and, even though there is now a more modern building, he is happy that he has been able to see where it is.

Thanks again - I knew when I couldn't find it myself someone on here would be able to dig something up!  :)

Cheers,
Clare

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Lanarkshire / Re: Mosshouse, New Monkland - where is it?
« on: Wednesday 04 May 11 22:42 BST (UK)  »
Hi guys,

I think I am getting there.  I couldn't find a 'Darngavel' on Google Maps but I found a 'Darngavil Road' just to the south of Greengairs, so I think it may be safe to assume that 'Mosshouse/Moss House in the hamlet of Darngavel in the Quad Sacra Parish of Greengairs' might have been around there.

Looking at the map, it looks like it is on the edge of a large quarry, so it may be long gone.  There also appears to be a book (out of print and not in the Glasgow Libraries catalogue of course!) called " The lost villages: Whiterigg, Darngavil, Arden, Ballochney, Craigmauchen, Meikle Drumgray, North Standrigg, South Standrigg" - giving further weight to my new theory that it no longer exists.  Hopefully, I'll be able to track down a copy of the book at some point and it may well be listed.

Thanks again for all your help!

Cheers,
Clare

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Lanarkshire / Re: Mosshouse, New Monkland - where is it?
« on: Wednesday 04 May 11 22:16 BST (UK)  »
Hi Monica,

I think Blackridge might be a bit too far east, as I think it is closer to Bathgate than Airdrie. 

I pulled up the entry that Sancti found in the 1901 census above to have a look and 'my' Mosshouse seems to be in the Greengairs area in the village or hamlet of Darngavel.  I've tried looking for the adjacent properties on that census record - but no success yet.  Am gutted that I can't look at the previous page but it looks like MOss house was number 1 on the schedule, so was first up in that ED. 

This will not deter me though!  I will go and try the same technique on the 1911 census (just as soon as I have a day off to get to the Family History Centre at the Mitchell).

Thanks again,
Clare

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Lanarkshire / Re: Mosshouse, New Monkland - where is it?
« on: Wednesday 04 May 11 21:53 BST (UK)  »
Ah - good shout Sancti! 

Thanks
Clare

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Hi there,

I know this is a long shot - but I am wondering if anyone on here is researching/related to a Miss A Worthington who attended the Scottish Institution for the Education of Young Ladies in 1854.

I have come across a book that was given to her as a prize in 1854.  I have been intrigued with this since I found it since it is an Astronomy book that was given as a prize for 'Physical Science' and I assume that there weren't many 'young ladies' who were given an education in science at this time.

If anyone has any info, please let me know.

Cheers,
Clare

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