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The Common Room / Re: Registered Foster Mothers
« on: Wednesday 29 May 24 00:42 BST (UK)  »
What a wonderful thing your mother did!  That she taught you those skills was wonderful too! 
The attachment to children, both young and older, is profound.  As a retired high school teacher, I particularly remember the first batch of students I had, and often wonder what became of them all.

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The Common Room / Re: Could my Sellers/Eyres family from DERBYSHIRE have Jewish ancestry?
« on: Tuesday 28 May 24 01:39 BST (UK)  »
FreeBMD has over 45,000 Franks listed, so likely English in origin. Fox has over 50,000.  I have never thought of Fox as a Jewish name, are you thinking of Fuchs, which I believe is German?
I too have many ancestors with Old Testament names, including Jabez, Isaiah, Esther, Naomi, etc. in fact, Esther married a Saul (Surname), but still no Jewish connections!  Not according to my DNA, anyway, or anything else I’ve come across.

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The Common Room / Re: Newspaper announcement found, but no death in FreeBMD or Gov.UK
« on: Friday 24 May 24 21:09 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Ian Christopher Weston on Friday 24 May 24 08:31 BST (UK)
Hi Diana,

Can you tell me where you found the will for the father of John Weston otherwise Uptain?  Also, do you have a transcription?

Regards,

Chris.

If you are a subscriber to Ancestry, look under East Sussex Wills.

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The Common Room / Re: Marriage Index Question
« on: Thursday 23 May 24 08:52 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: AntonyMMM on Wednesday 22 May 24 22:55 BST (UK)
(In E/W), being married, or in a civil partnership, can have a significant impact on inheritance tax liabilities and to some occupational pension entitlements so it is something that many couples who may have been  cohabiting for years may consider.

As far as names go - a person is required to marry in the name they "use or are known by" at the time. Other surnames can be shown, as "otherwise or "formerly known as", but don't have to be.

The entry will be indexed under whatever surnames appear on the register.

Thank you for this; the woman were already known by their future husbands’ surnames.

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The Common Room / Re: Marriage Index Question
« on: Thursday 23 May 24 01:17 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: garden genie on Wednesday 22 May 24 22:54 BST (UK)
As far as I remember, the laws of inheritance have always said that if a man is not married to his so-called spouse then she is not automatically entitled to anything when he dies. Furthermore any children of the unmarried couple are technically illegitimate and therefore have no expectations either. Unmarried couples who want to provide for their family need to write a clear and precise will or get married or preferably both! There have been plenty of cases where the 'widow' got a nasty shock when her unmarried 'husband' died. Hopefully with all the changes in recent years this may no longer be the case, as so many people don't bother getting married now.


This seems like a good reason Thomas and Lois finally married.  I did not find him in the probate list, so thinking whatever they had became Lois’ s automatically.
My great-great-grandmother, another Oliver, never married her common law husband, they were together for about fifty years and had 7 children.  He was a widower so no impediment there, and while she had two children before she knew him, I found no previous marriage for her.

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The Common Room / Re: Marriage Index Question
« on: Wednesday 22 May 24 22:18 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: David Nicoll on Wednesday 22 May 24 22:07 BST (UK)
Pension a possibility?

I don't know the ins and outs of British pensions!

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The Common Room / Re: Marriage Index Question
« on: Wednesday 22 May 24 21:57 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Mabel Bagshawe on Wednesday 22 May 24 21:43 BST (UK)
the usual reason is that one party wasn't free to marry - given the age gap it's quite possible Thomas Oliver already had a wife, even if they'd drifted apart before he and Elizabeth got together

That does not seem to be the case, no evidence of a wife or marriage (he had an unusual mididle name), and was with his mother in 1911, bachelor, 37.  In the 1921 he is with Lois and a baby daughter.  No evidence of a marriage in between.
In the other case I mentioned, this might be true.  Her husband had a common first and last name, and unless I ordered the marriage certificate I can’t pick him out of dozens with that name, so I can’t pinpoint a death.  They lived in south London so not as east to track as in a village.

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The Common Room / Re: Marriage Index Question
« on: Wednesday 22 May 24 21:35 BST (UK)  »
Now I am curious as to why they married decades after living together as a couple.  In one case about 27 years (and 9 kids) and the other almost 40 years.  In the latter case I suppose they might have drifted apart and got back together in their golden years.  I found them in the 1939 together and they married in 1977.
The couple (full disclosure, Thomas Oliver and Elizabeth Lois Foster, who lived in Sussex, believe all their children have passed away) might have thought Lois would not have inherited if Thomas died and she was not married to him.  Thomas was 72 when they married and Lois was 50.

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The Common Room / Re: Marriage Index Question
« on: Wednesday 22 May 24 21:28 BST (UK)  »
Thank you!

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