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Other Countries / Re: Help to translate a document please
« on: Monday 12 October 15 10:09 BST (UK)  »
Mate I am bit slow with technology what is a dropbox?

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Other Countries / Re: Help to translate a document please
« on: Monday 12 October 15 10:04 BST (UK)  »
just tried again and no result;

in red writing top left it said  inget sokresoltat

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Lancashire / Re: Where to Start looking.
« on: Monday 12 October 15 09:58 BST (UK)  »
Sorry you feel that way but thanks for you help up to date.

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Other Countries / Re: Help to translate a document please
« on: Monday 12 October 15 09:54 BST (UK)  »
No I went into town today only to find they had a day off.

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Lancashire / Re: Where to Start looking.
« on: Monday 12 October 15 08:15 BST (UK)  »
I have received your PM.   

I assume then that you may have missed the following cutting from a South Australian newspaper, it mentions that "Inspector Crafter said that defendant was born in Ireland in 1897" and that she had served prison sentences, and was in a very poor state of health.    There were very few opportunities for married females to find paid employment when they had children to support, particularly if their husband was not able to find employment himself.   

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/74455391 12 October 1940 The Advertiser

Cheers,  JM

JM

Yes I have the article but I also know why she was in the condition she was in, the real victims in this story are the children who never made it because she was in and out of jail. Sent to various children's homes or fostered out. One dying while an inmate in a boys home another couldn't cope and suicided.

She trained her daughter at 7 years old to assist her stealing women's handbags.  if she was a victim she would have hidden this type of activity from her child not actively encouraged her.

Her husband stole while being employed they became such a nuisance to authorities they were arrested on sight to protect the people that were working.

Her motives were selfish.
You do not have the information I have. Till you do you  have no right to tell me to treat her as a victim she was not. She chose her way of life and lived high at times and then low at other times.

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Lancashire / Re: Where to Start looking.
« on: Monday 12 October 15 07:47 BST (UK)  »
There is a tree on A* that says Patricia was born in Dublin, 1898 not Manchester, it also has a photograph of Irene.

 Is the photo of a well dressed lady with a very dower look on her face? if so I have that photo but question the authenticity of the information due to other facts.

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Lancashire / Re: Where to Start looking.
« on: Monday 12 October 15 07:41 BST (UK)  »
Hi there,

May I mention that IF the following newspaper article refers to your Gran, then I doubt she was much older than the 48 years of age mentioned in the article.   Please may I ask you to consider your Gran as a victim and not as a person with an extremely active criminal history.  Any mother who raised children in the 1930s in Australian towns and cities would have been struggling to provide for the children.  The Great Depression was perhaps of greater impact in Australia than many currently recognise.  I have living relatives who were adults in that era and who still remember the deprivations they, their parents, their neighbours, their friends, the strangers who tramped past their homes, all suffered.   

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/169360604 Truth 7 October 1945 .     

Cheers,  JM

Yes the article does refer to my grand mother. I have sent you a PM on the other part of your thread.

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Other Countries / Re: Help to translate a document please
« on: Monday 12 October 15 07:18 BST (UK)  »
so glad you got help on this ...good luck in your search into the past . my mother researched her mother's adoptive parents a 60'yr old couple when nana was a baby. the man turned out to have been in a workhouse school as a child.

B

Thanks Brigid I appreciate your efforts in my search, I have been at an impasse till this info and it has all be authenticated which is a plus. I have had a few wild goose chases.
Thanks
Mick

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Lancashire / Where to Start looking.
« on: Monday 12 October 15 06:47 BST (UK)  »
I am looking for any records of my Grand mother who, according to her Australian wedding certificate,  was born in Manchester England.

Unfortunately my Grand Mother used a number of alias's during her life time and never left any record of her date of birth, I can only approximate the dates.

Can anybody help by pointing me in the right direction or help me search for her. I believe her name was Patricia Irene Hough she was probably born between 1890 and 1900. On her 1945 Australian death certificate it states her age as 48. In police gazette reports there are comments that she "looked old for age", I wonder whether she had fudged the dates a bit.

The first record I have of her in Australia was 1925. So I assume, due her extremely active criminality  that date that would be close to the year she arrived in Australia.

Any help would be much appreciated.

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