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Aberdeenshire / Mill of Rathen Information
« on: Wednesday 10 February 21 06:31 GMT (UK) »
Does anyone have information on The Mill of Rathen in Rathen, Aberdeenshire?
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Opr Help. 09/02/1815 Shand, Elizabeth
« on: Thursday 28 January 21 09:23 GMT (UK) »
There was an Elizabeth Shand born 1791 Rathen to William Shand and Isobel Bruce in Rathen. Wondering if it could be the mother. Don't have any other info on that Elizabeth Shand. Thoughts?
Thank you GR2!
Thank you GR2!
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Eliz Shand had a Daughter Baptized befor
witnesses (incerti patris) named Elizabeth
Wm Simpson in Tophead Sponsor
Incerti patris is Latin for "of uncertain father". As Elizabeth will be subject to church discipline, she cannot present the child for baptism until she is absolved. William Simpson therefore acts as sponsor on her behalf and presents the child.
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Opr Help. 09/02/1815 Shand, Elizabeth
« on: Thursday 28 January 21 07:35 GMT (UK) »
Can someone please take a look at the Elizabeth Shand record and let me know what is says? Thank you.
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Aberdeenshire / Re: Joseph Shand & William Shand brothers?
« on: Friday 22 January 21 09:02 GMT (UK) »
Based on William's death cert, he was born in 1780. I believe he went to Canada in 1810. His wife's name was Margaret Mills. Married in Montreal. Any ideas on getting info on him between 1780-1810?
I'm afraid if the baptism isn't in the Rathen register on ScotlandsPeople, it won't be found elsewhere.
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Aberdeenshire / Re: Joseph Shand & William Shand brothers?
« on: Thursday 21 January 21 09:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi GR2,
I thought that as well. Any ideas on where else to look for baptism records? The parents were married in Rathen in 1778. I have 8 childrens baptisms. One of which was John who also died in infancy. Can't find one on a William. I even checked newspapers.com for any records.
I thought that as well. Any ideas on where else to look for baptism records? The parents were married in Rathen in 1778. I have 8 childrens baptisms. One of which was John who also died in infancy. Can't find one on a William. I even checked newspapers.com for any records.
It was quite common for the name of a child who died in infancy to be given to a child born later. Joseph could have had two brothers called William, the one who died as an infant and a younger William who went to Canada.
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Aberdeenshire / Joseph Shand & William Shand brothers?
« on: Thursday 21 January 21 07:24 GMT (UK) »
I need help with my 3xG Grandfather Joseph Shand b1790 Rathen, Aberdeenshire, Scotland and his brother William Shand.
This is his timeline.
1790 born Rathen to William Shand b1750 Methlick and Isabel Bruce b1751 Tyrie, Aberdeenshire. Married 1778 in Rathen.
1826 marriage to Ann Yule in Montreal, Quebec
1830 marriage to Jesse Ann Gray in Montreal, Quebec
1861 death Noyan, Quebec, Canada
I have recently found info about Joseph being contractor in Montreal, Quebec and working with his brother William Shand. I have William Shand's death cert in 1832 in Montreal, Quebec aged 52. If correct, then he would have been born in 1780. The family has a headstone where it lists a William Shand died in infancy.
So,my question is are they brothers? I have no birth record on William Shand. No info on a William Shand until approx 1810 in Montreal. A William Shand was on Joseph Shand's marriage records. Any help on finding anything on William Shand in Scotland would greatly appreciated.
Thank you!
This is his timeline.
1790 born Rathen to William Shand b1750 Methlick and Isabel Bruce b1751 Tyrie, Aberdeenshire. Married 1778 in Rathen.
1826 marriage to Ann Yule in Montreal, Quebec
1830 marriage to Jesse Ann Gray in Montreal, Quebec
1861 death Noyan, Quebec, Canada
I have recently found info about Joseph being contractor in Montreal, Quebec and working with his brother William Shand. I have William Shand's death cert in 1832 in Montreal, Quebec aged 52. If correct, then he would have been born in 1780. The family has a headstone where it lists a William Shand died in infancy.
So,my question is are they brothers? I have no birth record on William Shand. No info on a William Shand until approx 1810 in Montreal. A William Shand was on Joseph Shand's marriage records. Any help on finding anything on William Shand in Scotland would greatly appreciated.
Thank you!
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Shand Family Deciphering Help.
« on: Tuesday 10 November 20 01:55 GMT (UK) »
What or where would Toll Bar be?
Parkside
Cairness
N (= North) Lodge Philorth
Toll Bar
Kirkton
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Shand Family Deciphering Help.
« on: Tuesday 10 November 20 01:02 GMT (UK) »
Can you tell me about John Shand's occupation? Look like. 
? Keeper.
Also could you look at the previous post regarding Mary Cardno (Shand) death cert?
? Keeper.Also could you look at the previous post regarding Mary Cardno (Shand) death cert?
Parkside
Cairness
N (= North) Lodge Philorth
Toll Bar
Kirkton
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / 1841 Shand, Bathia (Census 196/ 5/ 13) Page 13 of 19
« on: Monday 09 November 20 20:45 GMT (UK) »
1841 SHAND, BATHIA (Census 196/ 5/ 13) Page 13 of 19
Would also like to know places of the other families on the census. It looks like Tool Bar for John Shand?
Would also like to know places of the other families on the census. It looks like Tool Bar for John Shand?