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The Common Room / Re: Baptisms
« on: Saturday 01 June 24 15:57 BST (UK)  »
I was told, by a vicar, that there are 2 parts; a christening (the naming of the child) and a baptism (the receiving of the child into the church).
usually, in a church, the 2 parts are performed together.

That's how some people like to explain it, but officially 'baptism' and 'christening' are alternative terms for the same thing. If you read through the baptism service in the Book of Common Prayer (one of the C of E's foundation documents) you'll find the two words used interchangeably; indeed, if you try to give them different meanings, it simply doesn't make sense.

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Wiltshire / Re: old word from early 1700s - a "Yeating Stone"
« on: Friday 31 May 24 16:54 BST (UK)  »
My wife has often come across yoting stones in the wills of her Wiltshire families, and while steeping barley is one possible meaning, it could be soaking grain more generally. I don't think there's any settled opinion, though, on what function the yoting stone performed: something to stand a yoting vat on? a stone vessel in which yoting took place?

Another possibility given in the full OED is that yoting was the process of fastening metal (railings etc) into stone with molten lead, so might the stone have been a vessel in which the lead was heated?

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Lanarkshire / Re: Just curious
« on: Friday 31 May 24 16:13 BST (UK)  »
I thought that column in 1921 was supposed to be the employer's name, but then if he was out of work, would he have had an employer?

On an English 1921 census form the heading of the Employer column indicates that people out of work should give the name of their last employer, and add "out of work". Scottish forms don't have that in the header, but is there a similar instruction somewhere else?

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Louis marries again to Harriet Garside and his address for probate 1925 has him at 14 Quill Street!

Same address for them in the 1911 census (RG14/26753 sch128) - they'd been married for a year.

Added:
Louis is a mineral water maker (worker), and at 20 Quill Street (where Fred Hepworth lived) is a Robert Robinson, single, mineral water manufacturer (employer).

Robert is at 20 Quill St in 1901 too, with his widowed mother Mary as head, and her grandson Riley Kitson (RG13/4149 fo139 p7).

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Some more from 1901 - the ones which seemed most likely:

RG13/4168 fo74 p13 - Royd St; age 48, wife of Israel; household includes Mary Schofield mother-in-law
RG13/4149 fo76 p29 - ?Mashington St; age 50, wife of Wright
RG13/4151 fo215 p6 - Garnett Sq; age 47, single
RG13/4147 fo87 p32 - John William St; age 46?, married but head; born Shropshire
RG13/4150 fo57 p25 - Gay Lane; age 46; single, with unmarried older sister Ann
RG13/4145 fo15 p21 - Violet Court, wife of Lewis (as above) [EDIT: looked again and it's Louis]

Some of these are just Sarah; I haven't done any investigations beyond the census, and I'm afraid I don't have time for them now.

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If they looked in the graves register for you, could they have misread an 8 as a 5? :-\
Death
June 1908 Bradford 9b 29
Robinson, Sarah Ann   
Age 55

If jonw65 is right about this, my 1901 census investigations (see Reply #5) will need to be revisited, because I used a fairly narrow age span. I can't do it just now, but I'll try to get round to it later, unless someone else gets there first.

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Sorry, just to clarify, what does MMN mean?

Mother's Maiden Name - can be seen in the GRO online birth index and from 1911 onwards (I think) at FreeBMD.

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I've been trying to find a Sarah Ann Robinson in the 1901 census, and the strongest possibilities seem to be these two:

837 Barkerend Road (RG13/4151 fo124 p11) - Sarah A Robinson as wife, but no husband present; also an unmarried daughter Alice M Storey, age 25. GRO index suggests Alice's mother's maiden name was Redsdale. FreeBMD has the marriage of Sarah Ann Storey to Harry Robinson in 1885.

27 Violet Court - in the Bowling area (RG13/4145 fo15 p21) - Sarah Ann wife of Lewis K Robinson; possible marriage in the Halifax district in 1875 of Lewis Robinson and Sarah Ann Jubb (from FreeBMD).

Do any of those extra surnames ring a bell? (But do check these for yourself, and there might be other possibilities that I've missed.)

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Yorkshire (North Riding) / Re: Stuck on parish register
« on: Thursday 23 May 24 19:49 BST (UK)  »
Please could you clarify what you already know?

In your first post you said you didn't know where Thomas Hutchinson was born:
Hi , I am trying to find birth place of Thomas hutchinson who married Anne shepherd on 28th nov 1805 in Easingwold.....

I found a strong indication that he might be from Ampleforth, yet here you're saying you already know about Ampleforth - although for a John, not a Thomas:
I have Thomas of amplethorpe he is father to John hutchinson who would be my great great great grandfather , I know that information as correct its this Thomas of amplethorpe I can't seem to find before 1805 thats when John was born , John marraige just states Thomas of amplethorpe .

So are you looking for Thomas or John? Or both? And are you really looking more for the father Thomas than the one who married Anne Shepherd?

If so, emeltom might have found the answer. And it's not impossible that the burial you found in 1774 is the same person, but more research would be needed to check this out. There could be several people with these names, as they're not uncommon.

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