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The Common Room / Re: Marriage Index Question
« on: Today at 01:17 »
Quote from: garden genie on Yesterday at 22:54
As far as I remember, the laws of inheritance have always said that if a man is not married to his so-called spouse then she is not automatically entitled to anything when he dies. Furthermore any children of the unmarried couple are technically illegitimate and therefore have no expectations either. Unmarried couples who want to provide for their family need to write a clear and precise will or get married or preferably both! There have been plenty of cases where the 'widow' got a nasty shock when her unmarried 'husband' died. Hopefully with all the changes in recent years this may no longer be the case, as so many people don't bother getting married now.


This seems like a good reason Thomas and Lois finally married.  I did not find him in the probate list, so thinking whatever they had became Lois’ s automatically.
My great-great-grandmother, another Oliver, never married her common law husband, they were together for about fifty years and had 7 children.  He was a widower so no impediment there, and while she had two children before she knew him, I found no previous marriage for her.

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The Common Room / Re: Marriage Index Question
« on: Yesterday at 22:18 »
Quote from: David Nicoll on Yesterday at 22:07
Pension a possibility?

I don't know the ins and outs of British pensions!

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The Common Room / Re: Marriage Index Question
« on: Yesterday at 21:57 »
Quote from: Mabel Bagshawe on Yesterday at 21:43
the usual reason is that one party wasn't free to marry - given the age gap it's quite possible Thomas Oliver already had a wife, even if they'd drifted apart before he and Elizabeth got together

That does not seem to be the case, no evidence of a wife or marriage (he had an unusual mididle name), and was with his mother in 1911, bachelor, 37.  In the 1921 he is with Lois and a baby daughter.  No evidence of a marriage in between.
In the other case I mentioned, this might be true.  Her husband had a common first and last name, and unless I ordered the marriage certificate I can’t pick him out of dozens with that name, so I can’t pinpoint a death.  They lived in south London so not as east to track as in a village.

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The Common Room / Re: Marriage Index Question
« on: Yesterday at 21:35 »
Now I am curious as to why they married decades after living together as a couple.  In one case about 27 years (and 9 kids) and the other almost 40 years.  In the latter case I suppose they might have drifted apart and got back together in their golden years.  I found them in the 1939 together and they married in 1977.
The couple (full disclosure, Thomas Oliver and Elizabeth Lois Foster, who lived in Sussex, believe all their children have passed away) might have thought Lois would not have inherited if Thomas died and she was not married to him.  Thomas was 72 when they married and Lois was 50.

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The Common Room / Re: Marriage Index Question
« on: Yesterday at 21:28 »
Thank you!

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The Common Room / Re: Marriage Index Question
« on: Yesterday at 20:26 »
Quote from: KGarrad on Yesterday at 20:18
The names are taken from the Marriage Certificate.
When someone is known as  "Smith, formerly Jones" or "Smith, previously known as Jones", both (or all) names are indexed.

So, in the case of these two women (one single, one previously married), who had been living with their husbands years before they married them, were known as Smith and Oliver, that was the reason for including the surnames (per usage rather than as married name custom)? 

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The Common Room / Re: Registered Foster Mothers
« on: Yesterday at 16:35 »
Quote from: Ashtone on Yesterday at 16:10
As the 1938 link above stated: "There is no preliminary 'Registration' of the woman or her home".
So, one wonders if a woman could simply inform the local Council "I'm a registered foster mother" and have some children handed over to her. Kind of scary, when you think about it.

Yes, when I saw that Anna was a registered foster mother, I hoped she was a good one!

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The Common Room / Re: Registered Foster Mothers
« on: Yesterday at 16:05 »
Interesting!  Thank you.  I should do a search on that term in the Hastings papers.

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The Common Room / Re: Registered Foster Mothers
« on: Yesterday at 15:27 »
Thank you.

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