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I dont want to attach this post with the previous one few years ago when trying to find my grandmother because I think it will only confuse things.  Hear me out and if this person is the adopted Nancy Sloss then we can merge things. If we concentrate on Nancy Sloss to begin with.

Nancy Sloss appeared in the 1911 census at Campsie as the 6 year old adopted daughter of Andrew and Margaret Sloss re McMillan born in Lanarkshire, Glasgow.  1921 Census she is now called Agnes Sloss and aged 16 years and 7 months.  1921 census taken in June 1921 possible birth month be November. She is recorded as their daughter and is employed as a laundry packer. 

Margaret McMillan has a half sister called Helen or Ellen, has also called herself Nellie and Kellie names taken from signatures on various death certificates and census.   She marries a John Stephenson Caldwell in 1904 Kelvin, Glasgow and she is recorded as Nellie McMillan.  Parentage and ages all tally with Helen McMillan. I have contacted Scotlands People and they confirm the name Nellie on the marriage certificate and have said that perhaps this was a nickname for her. 

22 November 1904 at Maryhill, Glasgow she gives birth to Agnes Winning Caldwell.  Agnes Winning Caldwell never appears in any census with her parents.  1911 Census John and Ellen are at Govanhill in Lanark, Glasgow with their other 2 sons.  They have been married for 7 years and they have had 3 children born alive and 3 children still living.  Only 2 children listed and I cannot find an Agnes Caldwell at another address in that census that matches her details.  1921 census the family are all living at St Rollox and Helen has had an additional 2 children and all 4 children are listed.  There is no column in that census for children born alive and still living. 

Margaret Sloss (Helen's half sister) had 2 children die Catherine died aged 6 months in 1905 and John died at 1 day old in February 1906. 

I  think Helen gave Agnes to her sister Margaret who called her Nancy to begin with and then changed her name to Agnes.  Agnes Winning Caldwell became  Nancy Sloss and then Agnes Sloss.

1935 Isabel Sloss is born at 22 Service Street, Campsie (the address of Margaret Sloss re McMillan) to an Agnes Winning Sloss daughter of a Spirit Salesman.  (John Caldwell had been a Spirit Salesman).

Isabel Sloss is my aunt.  This is where we have a twist to the story.  1939 National Register does not have an Agnes Caldwell in Scotland with Agnes's details.

My aunt's mother (my grandmother) was known to us as Ann Morrison.  She died in Halifax, Yorkshire in 1982. On her death certificate a line was put through her maiden name apparantly it was not known and her birth date recorded as 22 August 1910. My uncle registered her death.  Could not find a birth record with these dates. She married  a William McKelvie in 1938 in Blythswood.  William is 24 and Ann is 26. Marriage certificate says Father - Andrew Royston Morrison - Analytical Chemist and mother Margaret McMillan.  Cant find marriage between Andrew Royston Morrison and Margaret McMillan. 

According to the 1939 National Register Ann McKelvie (married) is in Perth at The Manse carrying out unpaid domestic duties.  This was at the start of the second world war and I think she had been evacuated from Glasgow. My aunt Wilma was born in  September 1939 at Dunning Perth.  Ann McKelvie's date of birth is 22 November 1911.  (the same birthday as Agnes Winning Caldwell just different years).
I have found a birth record for an Annie Murray Morrison born 22 November 1910 in Govan father - Robert Morrison and mother Elizabeth Somerville.  They move to Hull in Yorkshire and Robert dies in 1917 and Elizabeth dies in 1926.  Ann Morrison can be traced to 1921 aged 10 in Hull, Yorkshire with her widowed mother and her brothers and sisters.  Her sisters, Sarah marries Edward Ernest Gumbrell, I did find a Frederick Royston Gumbrell but I cant connect him to Ernest thinking possible Royston middle name connection. Sister Catherine dies in 1936 in England.  Brothers Hugh dies single in England about 1930s and brother Robert does end up back in Scotland marrying an Elizabeth Duthie.  He dies in 1986. Cant find out what happened to Annie Murray Morrison.

Is Agnes Caldwell re Nancy Sloss re Agnes Sloss my grandmother or is Annie Murray Morrison.  I just dont know. I have hit a brick wall with both of them.  I have two people and I need to rule one out.  Any ideas?  Sorry so long

I dont really understand the difference between special delivery and normal 15 day service.  I have asked for clarification.  I know special delivery was supposed to be quicker. 

15 days is a huge amount of time to wait for a document, that you need to further your investigations. 

Why post the documents? Surely could provide a quicker service via email.  No paper, no transport, much more eco friendly. 

I have ordered 2 birth certificates from Scotlands People and I paid for them to be delivererd by Special Delivery.  A few days have past and not received.  Checked my order and and its being fulfilled.  Has not been despatched yet.
Emailed Scotlands People and received email saying that special delivery service is not available and as a favour they will send them out to me today. 
I have been charged for special delivery.  They offering a service that they cant fulfil.  Doesn't seem right.

Thank you for replying.  I have been on here previously extensive cooperation from everyone and we traced her at aged 6 and she was an adopted daughter. I can track her up until her death its just previously.  Maybe I need to start a new thread on it.