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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Thomas Jones from England
« on: Thursday 09 May 24 23:05 BST (UK)  »
Burial Record:

Record for Ada Ann Jones

Date of birth
Unknown

Date of death
4 September 1984

Age at death
87 years

Gender
Female

Region
West

Cemetery name
Waikumete Cemetery

Remains type
Ash

Date of cremation
6 September 1984

Funeral director
Rodney Funeral Home Ltd

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Thomas Jones from England
« on: Thursday 09 May 24 21:57 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: minniehaha on Wednesday 15 November 23 00:00 GMT (UK)

Her death?

1984/38846   Jones   Ada Ann   19 July 1897

Minniehaha.

1984/38846 dob matches what I have for Ada Ann WIGGALL from Tamworth :)

Staffordshire, England, Birth, Marriage and Death Indexes, 1837-2017

Name: Ada Ann Wiggall
Record Type: Birth
Birth Date: 19 Jul 1897
Birth Place: Staffordshire, England
Mother: Louisa Coton

Almost certainly her death.

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Thomas Jones from England
« on: Wednesday 08 May 24 21:11 BST (UK)  »
Thank you all, I wanted to come back with something more substantial so here goes..

Quote from: maddys52 on Tuesday 07 November 23 00:29 GMT (UK)
NZ birth, deaths and marriages are free to search (within date restrictions due to privacy laws):
https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz

Just a possibility - there is an Ethel Ruth JONES married Francis Charles HOLMES in NZ in 1931. (1931/933)

Ethel Ruth HOLMES died in 1991  (1991/50557) - her date of birth was 4 June 1908.

This matches the dob on Ethel's birth certificate, so I'm happy that this is a match!


Quote from: Lucy2 on Wednesday 17 April 24 01:00 BST (UK)

Yes, a bit puzzled as to why you say "no sign" of these daughters.  ???

The Ethel Ruth JONES who married Francis Charles HOLMES in (NZ) 1931, is able to be confirmed as having been the daughter of "Thomas JONES of Wellington".
[  Source :    "New Zealand Who's Who" *  - Edition of 1938 :     Francis Charles HOLMES was a well-known merchant who resided in Wellington NZ.   Added: available at ancestry.com ]

   ~  Lu

Apologies, this was my mistake!


Quote from: minniehaha on Tuesday 07 November 23 19:39 GMT (UK)
On Freebmd there is a marriage for one Katie A. JONES in the 1927, June quarter, to Morris H. PARRY @ Holyhead.

Added:

Birth registration:

Name:  JONES, KATIE  ADELINE  -Mother's Maiden Surname SUFFLEBOTHAM  GRO Reference: 1909  D Quarter in ATHERSTONE  Volume 06D  Page 420


Minniehaha.

Quote from: mckha489 on Wednesday 17 April 24 00:49 BST (UK)
Have you acquired both the marriage certificates suggested earlier or ruled them out by other means?

Unfortunately this marriage was not correct. Katie A. JONES 1927 Holyhead was Katie Annie Jones, 25, father Lewis Jones (Baker)

Quote from: maddys52 on Tuesday 14 November 23 08:56 GMT (UK)
That's great Zakerias. Strange that the army records show his death on 30 Dec 1966 in Auckland, but I can't find a corresponding death on the NZ BDM index. It seems he may have married again "Mrs A A JONES" is next of kin. Just a possibility:

Ada Ann WIGGALL married Thomas JONES in 1932 (1932/1740).

Might be going down a rabbit hole here, but something very interesting.. Thomas' sister Catherine married Joseph William WIGGALL in January 1915. Joseph Wiggall had a sister, Ada Ann WIGGALL born Oct 1897 in Staffordshire (she was living in Baddesley Ensor in 1911 - right near to Thomas)

Perhaps she emigrated to be with him?

Just Katie left to find! :)

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Thomas Jones from England
« on: Tuesday 16 April 24 22:59 BST (UK)  »
To come back to this, the contact on the next of kin A. A. Jones (possibly Ada Ann from the posts from minniehaha) address' was given as Ligar Place, which appears to be in Grafton near Grafton Bridge, in Auckland.

Still no sign of Katie Adeline Jones or Ethel Ruth Jones (daughters).

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Warwickshire / Re: Ann Mumford - Balsall/Kineton
« on: Sunday 07 April 24 17:08 BST (UK)  »
One of the obvious things I forgot to mention about the above is that one is 'Fanny MUMFORD' and one is 'Fanny LOWE', hence why I didn't think they were the same person. I'll look for a Fanny MUMFORD b. 1856 Balsall, to rule it out.

Update

Not the same person. Fanny MUMFORD was the illegitimate child of Charlotte MUMFORD prior to her marriage to John Whorwood in 1861.

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Warwickshire / Re: Ann Mumford - Balsall/Kineton
« on: Saturday 06 April 24 21:04 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Ladyhawk on Saturday 06 April 24 11:49 BST (UK)
Could she have been named Hannah  ???

There is this baptism in Wroxhall but year 1829 father named William occ Labourer

From GENUKI
"WROXHALL, a parish in the Snitterfield division of Barlichway hundred, county Warwick, 6 miles N.W. of Warwick, and 4 from Kenilworth railway station........

Joseph & Ann Lowe have children William & Fanny in 1861 - could Fanny be named after a member of Ann's family? Joseph & Ann (born c1826) are with Joseph Lowe's parents William & Ann in 1851

Possibly. I'm trying to keep an open mind here as I don't have Ann's baptism or death record, so I feel there must be something we're missing..

William (Labourer) would fit the marriage cert too. The William of Balsall is a farmer. However, on the 1851 & 1861 census it does state birthplace as Balsall on both.

It's funny you mention Fanny, she's listed on 1861 census with Joseph, Ann and William est. dob of 1856 but there's also a Fanny with the same estimated dob (1856) living with the William and Mary in the 1861 census with a relation 'granddaughter', birthplace Balsall. I doubt they are the same person? But odd that it matches.

I assumed Joseph & Mary's Fanny moved to Meriden, which is where I have her 1871 census as a servant, born Balsall, estimated dob. 1855 employer Mary Ward (68) grocer. The Fanny with William/Mary is still with them in the 1871 census. Might be worth looking at in greater detail.

I had a look for a Hannah Lowe death, or any female Lowe death in the district of Solihull between 1861 and 1871 in fact with no real results. May be her name was Fanny and not Ann, just clutching at straws now.

I'm descended from William Lowe, my grandfather told me a story about him, which I think is quite strange given he was born in 1853!

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Warwickshire / Re: Ann Mumford - Balsall/Kineton
« on: Friday 05 April 24 20:26 BST (UK)  »
Slow progress here..

The William Mumford we're currently looking is the same one featured in the Leamington Spa Courier - 6th April 1844, confirming he had been a farmer at Park Corner "for some years, at the rent of £80".

Park Corner is just south of Temple Balsall, likely where Park Corner Nurseries, Temple Ln, Solihull B93 0AW is now. Likely called 'Park Corner' as it once was the corner of the 'Park' owned by Chadwick Manor.

Distance between Park Corner and Meer End is roughly 3.7 miles (where W Mumford and J Lowe were living in the 1851 census) - remembering the marriage was in 1850.

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Warwickshire / Re: Ann Mumford - Balsall/Kineton
« on: Friday 29 March 24 21:45 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: ciderdrinker on Friday 29 March 24 12:16 GMT (UK)
Hi
Christenings for William and Mary of Balsall
Mary 17.9.1815 at Tanworth in Arden laborer of Nuthurst (possibly dying 1828 Stratford on A)
Thomas born 1.2.1818 bapt 4.10.1821 at St Martins Birmingham but living Solihull labourer (moves to Gloucestershire 1864 onwards)
Elizabeth 11.6.1824 at Solihull of Shelley Green labourer
Sarah 19.6.1828 Hampton in Arden farmer Balsall
William 9.10.1831 Temple Balsall labourer
Can't see Charlotte or Henry.

Marriage looks like William Mumford and Mary Fardoe    19.5.1815 St Martins Birmingham
wit John and Sarah Billingsley
So there is a gap 1818-1824 between their children.


Ciderdrinker

Interesting! I have Ann with an estimated birth of 1826 in 1851 census, 1822 in 1861 census. Sadly the marriage cert only lists 'of full age'. On the marriage cert in 1850 Ann's profession is a Servant. I don't have Ann in the 1841 census, so may be it's time I looked for that but honestly she'll probably be a Servant somewhere.

If the information I have on Joseph is correct, he was 38 when he married. So I can see Ann fitting in the gap of William and Mary Mumford

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Warwickshire / Re: Ann Lowe - Honiley
« on: Friday 29 March 24 21:27 GMT (UK)  »
Pressed quote instead of modify.

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