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Berkshire / Re: Mary from Mortimer - seeking guidance (or answers!)
« on: Saturday 18 July 20 01:04 BST (UK)  »
Hi Lizzie,

That marriage is a good possibility given its time and location. I had seen the entry as Jones not Jarvis (clearly a miss transcription), which gives the Berkshire checking more options.

Finding Mary Jarvis (or variations)  born anywhere near Mortimer at around 1790 is more of an issue. Images of the parish registers don't seem to be on line - which means I can't trawl through them.

Not finding much for Thomas either! or Joanna Eltham.

Andrew

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Berkshire / Re: Mary from Mortimer - seeking guidance (or answers!)
« on: Friday 10 July 20 06:50 BST (UK)  »
Hello and thanks for the follow up questions.

Hopefully the below provides sufficient information.

Samuel Smith details
Born -  2/5/1796 at Framingham Pigot, Norfolk. (as were all the siblings mentioned in will – most siblings older)
Died  - 6/12/1856, at 23 Manchester Tce, Islington – Aged 60, Gentleman. (had been  a milkman/dairyman in various other documents including wifes will.
Will (executors wife Mary Smith plus William Scale and Thomas Jarvis – friends). Written 20/12/1855,. Proved 11/2/1857.
I have. pdf of the will, but it is three pages long and challenging to read.
Estate appears to consist of freeholds and leaseholds and ready monies.  ? residence at Manchester Tce, plus 2 leaseholds (27 Osnaburgh St, Regents park and 12 Seymour Place, Euston Square)  . Values are not noted in the will
Main beneficiary is wife Mary Smith. 
Daughter Frances Cooper, wife of John Cooper (son in law) is only child mentioned  - wording is “my daughter Frances Cooper. This phrase is repeated several times as Frances and John Cooper are referenced. 
Will also provides that the children of 6 brothers (one of whom is deceased) and 1 sister are provided for, but no note of amount or percentage of whole that I can decipher.
Seems to refer to trusts (maybe pre-existing) and the rules that will apply to them in future.

(note- I have suspected that there may have been other children who predeceased their father, but have not located any reference, and the detail relating to nieces and nephews suggests that if they did exist they were without surviving issue at the time of the will)
Frances was the only child in the 1841 census

Marriage witness at Francis’s wedding Caroline appears to be the daughter of Samuel's brother John (I have no more on her as yet)

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Berkshire / Mary from Mortimer - seeking guidance (or answers!)
« on: Wednesday 08 July 20 23:25 BST (UK)  »
Hello,
Samuel Smith (1796-1856) married Mary (c1790-1866). They had a daughter Frances (b.1831 in Chelsea). Samuel's will indicates Frances as his only child.

In the 1851 and 1861 census Mary is recorded as born in Reading or Mortimer. Her birth year through 3 census's and her death cert ranges from 1790 (death) to 1795 (1841 census).

I have looked at marriages in London/Middlesex, Berkshire and Norfolk (where Samuel was born) between 1811 and 1831, and traced the Mary's, but none seem to fit the Mortimer link.

Can anybody advise or suggest some next steps?

Thank you

Andrew
Strathbogie, Australia

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London and Middlesex / Re: Rates and Census confusion (or clarificatio needed)
« on: Monday 06 July 20 22:47 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Graham.

That helps to explain why lots of people live at the address, but he is the only one paying rates.

Andrew

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London and Middlesex / Rates and Census confusion (or clarificatio needed)
« on: Monday 06 July 20 00:24 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

I have several years of Westminster rates where a possible relative Richard Smith is paying paving or poor rates at 11 or 12 Denzell St, St Clement Danes. Including 1841.
When I look at the census records for 1841 he is not recorded as living at the address.
I imagine there is a really logical explanation for this.
Can anybody provide it??

Andrew

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Unusual word in Parish Burial register
« on: Monday 15 June 20 06:56 BST (UK)  »
Thank you.
I was beginning to think it may be something like that.
I very much appreciate the help.

Andrew

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Unusual word in Parish Burial register
« on: Monday 15 June 20 06:39 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
I am looking at the below Parish register for Peter Wharton buried 20/05/1715.
There is an unusual word that I cannot decipher in the left column. It is against a number of entries throughout the 30 pages I looked at. I cannot seem to find a theme for what it might mean. I think Peter may have been 10 years old, and I think his parents may have been dead and it could mean that - but other entries don't seem to support the theory.



The records are in the below collection from Ancestry.com

London, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812
Tower Hamlets
St Dunstan and All Saints, Stepney
1701-1715

Any advice in deciphering the word is appreciated.

Regards

Andrew

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Wiltshire / Re: Jane Serging - is the surname real?
« on: Thursday 09 April 20 10:40 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Capetown.

I will see what I can find - the one you mention would not be the one, but she may have an aunt or cousin.

regards'

Andrew

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Wiltshire / Re: Jane Serging - is the surname real?
« on: Sunday 05 April 20 07:33 BST (UK)  »
Hi Annie,

Thanks for the comments.

I only have one child for them, John died in November 1721, their son William was born in June 1722 and Jane remarried in early 1723. I also have a feeling that who I have thought was John (b1698) and his father John (c,1670) may in fact have been the same person, which could make Jane his second marriage.
The spelling of the name Simpkins, Simkins, Simpkin, Simkin, is somewhat interchangeable across the various records I have.
Given that priests did most of the writing, and probably wrote what they heard, that is unsurprising.
I have checked some alternate sounding names, but nothing from the same area at that time has come up.

Andrew

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