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Roscommon / Dillon’s Grove
« on: Tuesday 28 May 19 07:52 BST (UK)  »
This was a property owned by the Dillon family of Drumreany. Does anyone know where this house was located. It is mentioned in quite a few online searches but no location is given.

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Ireland / Re: Griffiths Valuation-Ancestry search question
« on: Monday 18 March 19 07:34 GMT (UK)  »
With the help of one of my American cousins we think we have found the solution to this.
Where there is the designation 'Senior' against a name (sen), Ancestry's search engine is showing the name as Esquire MD. No idea why but it's obviously a glitch in their program.
We have tried with many name searches over several counties and it seems to be the solution which would account for over fifteen thousand entries returning this title.
No point in telling Ancestry this as they don't listen.
So I'm posting it here in the hope it will be of help to others who encounter this glitch.

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Ireland / Re: Griffiths Valuation-Ancestry search question
« on: Friday 22 February 19 19:32 GMT (UK)  »
As promised here is Ancestry's reply

Thank you for contacting Ancestry in regard to incorrect record.

Thank you for bringing this oversight to our attention. We are happy to help.  We always strive to ensure that the information we provide is accurate.  Please note that we generally receive data from outside sources and post it as it was provided to us.  In order to maintain authenticity in our records, we cannot make changes directly to material not created by Ancestry.com.  To make these types of changes, you will need to contact the original creators of this data, have them correct this in their own records and then send this update to us for posting.  We apologize for any frustration or inconvenience this may cause.

This looks like a cut and paste standard reply so no joy there.
 

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Ireland / Re: Griffiths Valuation-Ancestry search question
« on: Thursday 14 February 19 21:41 GMT (UK)  »
The screenshot Hallmark has provided is our Roscommon group on the O'Brien Y DNA project.
 
I have personally organised that test from a known descendant of Denis from Aghaderry so I do know it is a true match and that our group connect to the Inchiquins through Y DNA.

What we are trying to do is establish the migration pattern from County Clare to Roscommon as to when and why it occurred. We have a very distant cousin in Australia who can trace his roots to within 20 miles of Sixmilebridge so the connection seems plausible.

I have been co ordinating our group's UK research into the DNA part for the last couple of years.

I will email Ancestry and point out the implausibility of all the matches with Esquire MD and see what they say. I will post back in due course when they (hopefully) reply.

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Ireland / Re: Griffiths Valuation-Ancestry search question
« on: Thursday 14 February 19 18:53 GMT (UK)  »
Denis junior died in 1880 but his father Denis senior died in 1855 so before civil registration. His death was reported in an Irish national newspaper -Freeman's Journal  under the name of Mister D O'Brien which would indicate a person of some importance.

The 1882 death was the grandson.

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Ireland / Re: Griffiths Valuation-Ancestry search question
« on: Thursday 14 February 19 18:27 GMT (UK)  »
Yes we believe they are father and son.

Below is the askaboutireland parish.

Aghaderry  Roscommon  Frenchpark  Tibohine  Aghaderry 

The question is where is Ancestry getting the Esquire MD from, not just for this but for many others when it dos'nt appear on the record itself when you view it. It must have come from somewhere.

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Ireland / Re: Griffiths Valuation-Ancestry search question
« on: Thursday 14 February 19 18:12 GMT (UK)  »
It will work on Ancestry. It takes some fiddling around with on askaboutireland to make it work

First record on Ancestry
 
Denis O'Brien Esquire MD
Viscount Dillon Aghaderry, Tibohine, Roscommon 

Second record

Denis O'Brien Esquire MD
Lord Inchiquin Sixmilebridge, Kilfinaghta, Clare 

Note no other Denis O'Brien appears with this designation after his name


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Ireland / Re: Griffiths Valuation-Ancestry search question
« on: Thursday 14 February 19 17:55 GMT (UK)  »
Ah, I wasn't aware that Ancestry would link databases like that. That does make me feel a bit better as this particular record is a crucial one in linking this guy from Roscommon to Clare.

Here's the record.
If you go into Ancestry search on Griffith's and type Denis O'Brien in the name, then Aghaderry in the place and hit search, it should show up as the second record down on the search results.

He then appears on page four second from the bottom in Clare as tenant of Lord Inchiquin assuming you  have the default of 20 to the  page.

Yes I have been on the ask about Ireland site which is very good but I am most intrigued about this extra info that appears on Ancestry. In the O'Brien surname project we are desperate to prove this is the same guy and wondered about the veracity of the title Esquire MD. We do believe he could have been a surgeon who maybe served in the military but that is as yet unverified.

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Ireland / Re: Griffiths Valuation-Ancestry search question
« on: Thursday 14 February 19 17:18 GMT (UK)  »
That's what I mean so

1) They can't all be Doctors - so does it mean something else. Okay Esquire I can accept!

2) Where has the database Ancestry has been provided with got that info from when it does not appear on the images?

It must have come from somewhere.

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