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Hello Bookbox,


Spot on, it was for an inventory

Thanks again!

Llanfi 

Thanks Bookbox!

I was hoping John William was from Brecon, but he was also from Maesmynis...

I think that the ap Hugh's became Pughs by 1700 in Breconshire, and the ap Evans became Bevans or Beavans. Gwillam became Williams, etc., etc.

I am close to finding the relationship between Hugh Beavan of Merthyr Cynog and David Williams gent. of Battle in a Bond settling Thomas Pugh of Merthyr Cynog's estate in 1670.

Thanks again!!

Llanfi 

Thank you DRH123 and maddys52

I searched for Byn Celyn in the area of Bailey Brith Merthyr Cynog, and found a field called Bryn Celyn. That is in line with the bequest of Tir BrynCelyn in 1634 by David Thomas of Bailey Brith in his Will of 1634

(The will bequeathed Tir Bryncelyn, a dwelling of some sort. But that was in 1634, and the Welsh tithe maps are 1840-ish. That's 200 years later. There seems to be a small plot on the path leading to Bailey Brith, and I'll settle for that's where Tir BrynCelyn used to stand. I checked on Google Earth but although there is a clearing there is no sign of ruined cottage. I have attached the Tithe map, and will close with gratitude)

Thanks again to all of you!

Llanfi 

Hello all!

That is a surprise.. Henry does actually fit the context and is really helpful for me to know. I think he was a relative living in Battle Breconshire.

Anne Jones was David Thomas's wife, They had sold their property (Bailey Brith) to Harry Williams of Battle in 1625. David Thomas died in 1634, Anne must have died before 1642, because Henry William, Gent had occupied the estate.

See how helpful this forum is!!!

Cheers,

Llanfi 

File - Agreement to levy a fine [sur] cognizance, etc., to the use of David Thomas and Anne, his wife, and after ..., 1625, Sept. 10. Natur a chynnwys | Scope and content: 1 David Thomas of Bayli Brith in p. Merthir, co. Brec., gent., and Anne, his wife. 2 Harry Williams of Battell, co. Brec., yeoman, and Anne, his wife, daughter of the said David and Anne. 3 Sir Henry Williams of Gwernevet, co. Brec., kt. Agreement to levy a fine [sur] cognizance, etc., to the use of David Thomas and Anne, his wife, and after their dec. to Anne, wife of Harry Williams and her son, Thomas David Gwillim, with remainder to William Parry, another son of the said Anne, wife of Henry Williams upon a capital m. called Bayli Brith, and 7 m's and lands, etc., in Merthir aforesaid. Nodyn | Note [generalNote]: Preferred citation: A/ 271. Lleoliad ffisegol | Physical location: ARCH/MSS (GB0210) A/ 350. vtls005454350 ISYSARCHB63

File - An inventory of goods, cattle and chattels, etc., of Thomas Williams of Bayly Brith, p. Merthir, co. Brec., esq., dec ..., 1633, April 20. Natur a chynnwys | Scope and content: An inventory of goods, cattle and chattels, etc., of Thomas Williams of Bayly Brith, p. Merthir, co. Brec., esq., dec., made by Edward Davies, William Watkins, Richard Watkins, William Prichard, Walter Lewis, Thomas Powell, Rees ap John and William Hay, gents.

File - Bond in the penalty of £200 for the observance of conditions specified in a pair of indentures of even date ..., 1642, Sept. 18. Natur a chynnwys | Scope and content: 1 David John David Morgan of Merthir kynocke, co. Brec., gent., and John David of the same place, gent. 2 Henry William of Bayly Bryth, co. Brec., gent. Bond in the penalty of £200 for the observance of conditions specified in a pair of indentures of even date. Nodyn | Note [generalNote]: Preferred citation: A/ 128. Lleoliad ffisegol | Physical location: ARCH/MSS (GB0210)

Hi all,

And it was in Gwillim Bevan's Will... Bevan is from ab Evan.. son of Evan

I think that clinches the name as Jevan and the variant in question was Evan

Thanks everyone!

Llanfi