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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Cudworth Armstrongs
« on: Monday 25 June 12 11:56 BST (UK)  »
That, in itself would not confuse me. My wife's parents divorced, but not before her father's father and her mother's mother, both previously widowed, married each other and took over as de facto parents of my wife. They did the same for grandchildren by other parents also. Consequently my wife grew up believing her cousins to be her siblings.
To make things more confusing (if having parents who were by now step-siblings was not confusing enough) her mother now married again and produced a boy, who was over twenty years younger than my wife. When her mother died, which she did when the boys was still four years old, my wife took him on. She was already married and her own daughters considered the boy to be their brother.
So, my wife's mother's father-in-law became her step-father. My wife's father's mother-in-law became his step-mother. My wife's mother also became her step-aunt and likewise her father cecame her step-uncle - if such things are recognised! My wife's brother was brought up as her son, who was brother to the girls whose great-grandmother was his own grandmother. The person he regarded as his great-grandfather, was, in fact, no relation at all, since he and my wife were only half-siblings. However, his sisters who were actually his nieces, were related to both great-grandparents. You really do need a clear head for this...

The Armstrongs do not have a gap in my mind. Geoff relates the story of his father, grandfather and great-grandfather, all of whom lived and worked in this very road, but at different points along it. Geoff's grandfather owned and occupied the site that Geoff now owns and occupies. However, in common with something over 90% of the population of Cudworth, their forebears came from elsewhere becuase they arrived here to work in the newly opened deep mines - of which there were at least six within walking distance. A good many had come from the Staffordshire and Derbyshire areas. Before 1850 the population of this township was a mere 550 people. By 1900 it was approaching 10,000.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Cudworth Armstrongs
« on: Monday 25 June 12 10:19 BST (UK)  »
Fascinating stuff. I have a fast growing list of people who lived here in Cudworth before the opening of the neighbouring deep mines, when this area was all farming with the oddd shallow mine and quarry. I have not come across any Armstrongs as yet, so I imagine that Geoff's family were relative latecomers having moved in from elsewhere.


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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Rev Frederick Bentley Greeves (Cudworth)
« on: Sunday 24 June 12 23:35 BST (UK)  »
When you say 'originally' is that because he was the first Vicar at Cudworth?. I note that A Rev. F B Greeves was curate in the parish of Eston which is on Teesside, but in 1890, when he was listed in a local directory, this was still the North Riding of Yorkshire. Today it is in the much expanded Borough of Middlesbrough.

The parish of Cudworth was created by the division of the parish of Monk Bretton in 1894; both were previously a part of the ancient large rural parish of Royston.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Cudworth Armstrongs
« on: Sunday 24 June 12 23:21 BST (UK)  »
Is this the Armstrong family who live opposite me?

Geoff or Jeff Armstrong is my neighbour opposite and from what he tells me, his family have lived in Low Cudworth for a good few generations.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Joseph Dobson, aka Samuel HELP PLEASE
« on: Sunday 24 June 12 23:02 BST (UK)  »
I was intrigued by the comment about miners and small trains!
In 1840 the North Midland Rialway was built through Cudworth, as well as through parts of neighbouring Monk Bretton. The railway was built partly to service the increasing number of collieries being sunk in the vicinity. 'Barnsley' station was the first name given to the station in Cudworth, since it had the railway before Barnsley. There were a large number of other new or subsidiary railways built here during the next fifty years.

The miners' 'trains' in 1840 were pit-pony drawn 'jags' that brought the coal up to the surface; usually 'driven' by boys in those days.
Regards
John

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Death Record Elizabeth Simmons
« on: Sunday 24 June 12 22:48 BST (UK)  »
Rich
Unlike Caroleanne, I do know a bit about the parish boundaries - because as an historical geographer I am currently studying the ancient history of Cudworth. Cudworth did not become a parish until its population rose to a sufficient level to merit the expense. This happened when the very large numbers of miners, quarrymen and railway workers began arriving to service the large deep mine collieries that were being opened up towards the end of the 19th century and start of the 20th.

Until 1838/9, the township of Cudworth had been a constituent part of the large rural parish of Royston. The parish also included Notton, Woolley, Carlton and Monk Bretton. Then the new daughter parish of Monk Bretton was established and Cudworth became a part of this. Until 1894, that is, when the new parish of Cudworth was established with its church being erected on the High Royd and dedicated to St John the Baptist.

Regards
John


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Wiltshire / Re: How many Churchyards in Devizes?
« on: Wednesday 20 October 10 22:55 BST (UK)  »
Tyrone

I wonder if you are looking in the right place. Devizes was a registration district and I assume that it was in 1968 which covers a wide area around this very rural and thinly populated area. I note that the death was in Easterton, which is just on the edge of Salisbury Plain (a good place for MoD Police!) near the Lavingtons.

It is likely, if he died there, that the burial took place in Easterton, Market Lavington or somewhere nearby.

Regards
John

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Cambridgeshire Lookup Requests / Re: Taylors in Isleham and Soham
« on: Monday 13 September 10 15:38 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Trish

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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Re: Huguenot burials in Southampton
« on: Sunday 12 September 10 22:35 BST (UK)  »
I'm glad that you got to see the chapel; I admit that I had a sneek look once when the door was open for reasons that I still do not know, but since the lights were out and it seemed as if I was intruding I did not linger long.

I have Oxford University connections of old and I know that some records have also made their way into the county archives, so Queens may have it, but if they don't try the Oxfordshire archives too.

regards
John

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