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Cardiganshire / Divorce date
« on: Monday 05 February 24 11:31 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, is it possible to look up a divorce date? I’m pretty sure I know roughly when and the relevant court.
And if yes, which sites allow a free lookup as I haven’t got access to a paid site right now.

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Lancashire / Re: Mary Ann Cain (or Smith) Prison records
« on: Wednesday 29 September 21 14:33 BST (UK)  »
The address mentioned in the 1871 census 45 Angel Street, Manchester  is a known address in the family bible linked to William.

This is where he was living at the age of 8 in 1871.
Father name James

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Lancashire / Re: Mary Ann Cain (or Smith) Prison records
« on: Wednesday 29 September 21 14:31 BST (UK)  »
In my tree, Willian Henry Smith father is called James Smith and Bridget, but I’ve only found this as a potential from using census records.

I have an ancestry result for a marriage between William and Rose from BMD in Dec 1984 but I’ve not found the details on the Lancashire site.

That’s a cert I need to order at some point to confirm both of their parents for definite. But I do know William had a sister called Kathleen.

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Lancashire / Re: Mary Ann Cain (or Smith) Prison records
« on: Wednesday 29 September 21 14:11 BST (UK)  »
It might be my tree you found on ancestry. Under ruthrichards1973?
I had one record I found with those names on but nothing else due to a very common surname. To be honest I was searching more on Rose Lynch the wife of William. There are some hints in the tree but I was waiting for some time to research that side more as it’s a bigger family with a common name so I know it’s a tricky one.

I found one that had his name and John and sister Kathleen, which gave a parents name possibly of Bridget but that part I haven’t really researched yet as it’s another stem further up.

There is a distant relative of mine that was also researching this part of the family so has a tree in ancestry too, but some records didn’t match dates I had from my side and as I couldn’t prove it I decided not to use it as confirmed.

I will be ordering Williams birth certificate too at some point to check Bridget is definitely their mother on that stem.

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Lancashire / Re: Mary Ann Cain (or Smith) Prison records
« on: Wednesday 29 September 21 12:04 BST (UK)  »
I didn’t know about Susan. Interestingly Rose’s son named his daughter Susan. And I’ve just discovered Florence named her daughter Kathleen after her aunt, John’s sister.

I think I need to go through the family bible again and start listing all names and addresses in it!

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Lancashire / Re: Mary Ann Cain (or Smith) Prison records
« on: Wednesday 29 September 21 11:59 BST (UK)  »
Oh my gosh, that’s amazing!
I found the newspaper articles mentioned above and am going to get a copy.

Thankyou!

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Lancashire / Re: Mary Ann Cain (or Smith) Prison records
« on: Wednesday 29 September 21 00:05 BST (UK)  »
thats the one I can see on ancestry, I guess Im going to have to renew my membership soon :-D

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Lancashire / Re: Mary Ann Cain (or Smith) Prison records
« on: Tuesday 28 September 21 23:29 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: heywood on Tuesday 28 September 21 23:22 BST (UK)
A good find  :)

In 1891 John Smith is 28 yrs born 1863, Manchester.

You wrote earlier,
“ Her husband John Smith was born approx 1860 in Newcastle”.

Where do you have him in censuses?

Its only an approx from an 1871 cencus with his brother William which I know that one is more accurate.

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Lancashire / Re: Mary Ann Cain (or Smith) Prison records
« on: Tuesday 28 September 21 23:09 BST (UK)  »
Ive now been able to order both birth certificates for the two girls and am very confident Ive now got the correct ones!

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