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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: 1841 Census Bad Handwriting
« on: Saturday 28 April 18 16:13 BST (UK)  »

The pink blobs will be the Hogenberries  ;D  Sorry will stop messing now :-[

 ;D It would not surprise me AT all to be honest lol. As for the rout it isnt listed in that one. In all honesty I am slightly confused by what his rout was.

I have been reduced to drawing a map and referencing that against field names to try and work it out.

He walks ... or rides .... a good 5 miles and takes a list of the people living on various farms there. then he travels 6 miles to the next lot and ill call that base 1. The only way to get there is past this twinaway lot but he doesnt stop there. He does stop at these on the way back and then on to some more .... following a logical rout. then he comes back on himself and heads off to a different set of villages. The distance he travels to the furthest one i would guess at 6 miles. Then he finishes up there .... then for some unknown reason he travels back past them all again and goes to Base 1 ... writes down two peoples names .... then back past everyone again does a couple more elsewhere and on his way.

Key of rout starts in green and continues in red when he goes all the way back to base1 to log two people. Crazy.


Regarding Tithe maps ... did they leave buildings off at all??? 

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: 1841 Census Bad Handwriting
« on: Saturday 28 April 18 15:38 BST (UK)  »
Its a fork in a country lane where there was apparently a couple of very small structures. Pink blobs on the tith map. There are two fields at that junction and both are called

Twinaway and Homeward Twinaway .... do you think its possible from the blobs you can see lol?

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: 1841 Census Bad Handwriting
« on: Saturday 28 April 18 15:35 BST (UK)  »
Wow that is a tough one.  Is it written anywhere else like on the next/previous page that might be a little more readable?

Looks like ends in "erry or berry"

Well I may know what it is ... something has just twigged from readin the names of fields on the tithe documents for that area. But here is another image which is a continuation on next page.


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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / 1841 Census Bad Handwriting
« on: Saturday 28 April 18 15:10 BST (UK)  »
Samual Sanders and family live in North Petherwin .... but what is the name of the place ... somthing Lane i think.
Anyone got a clue?

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Armed Forces / Re: Prisoners of war In Cornwal/Devonl Uk
« on: Saturday 28 April 18 14:56 BST (UK)  »
Maybe start here?   http://www.cornwallswarhistory.co.uk/maps/prison-camps/   
or here http://thatsmycornwall.com/ww2-prisoners-of-war-in-cornwall/


Many Thanks Greenrig. I'll get started.


ref previous post "which war" ... I already quilified that in first post ... "prisoners of .... a war" ... can't tell you what I don't know .... enriched by the qualifying statement after ... "rumur" etc ... sorry lol.

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Armed Forces / Prisoners of war In Cornwal/Devonl Uk
« on: Saturday 28 April 18 10:32 BST (UK)  »
I am attempting to see if there was a prisoner or prisoners of .... a war .... employed on the property I am researching.


A rumour handed down was that one day the military turned up and said .... hmmm youre remote can we leave some POWs with you to work here.

I do not know who would hold those records if they even exist so its a generic answer that ill get I am guessing. But I have also read that Parishes where POWs were kept ... this is Launceston UK and there were 2 camps or maybe 3 .... let it be known how many they had. Each day you had to make a request for help on your farm and those would be supplied. How true this is I have no idea but it would be at least a step toward plausibility. Assuming this is true some form of register was probably kept.

Anyone know the process?

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Census and Resource Discussion / Re: The term Moor
« on: Friday 27 April 18 10:44 BST (UK)  »
The Genealogist (subscription website) has all the English and Welsh tithe maps online.
Otherwise, the county record office will have them - phone to check they are open/accessible/don't have to be ordered in advance etc.
Also Old maps can be viewed via various websites, some free of charge eg https://maps.nls.uk/os/6inch-england-and-wales/  and also use google for specific areas since you don't want to say where you're interested in.
Also try Genuki for the area of interest (use Google)

Thank you. Actually after the previous post I did have a quick look online and as suspected they are digitising some of them but the vast majority are held at the records office. Its appointment only and you have to book quite a way in advance. So that had to go one the back burner for the time being. Walked away from laptop to make a coffee and then I froze .....

.... The area wasnt Cornwall back then it was Devon! Tried again online and Devon have them all located online and for free .... the term moor is used to name various fields ..... but the property I am interested in isnt on those and has its own name. Which is brilliant because it gives me a name to trace to see how the field got its name. But as the property is in that field and the people living at the "moor" have their own field I have to see where they were living. Cant wait.

Conclusion so far is that the house did'nt exist in 1841 ... it may have existed in 1851 oinwards.


Thank you guys all so much this has been a very very useful if steep learning curve. Take Care.

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Census and Resource Discussion / Re: The term Moor
« on: Friday 27 April 18 08:33 BST (UK)  »
Have you searched tithe records? Accompanying maps are detailed, showing every field.
Possibly leases.
Each census enumerator filled in a page recording numbers of people not in houses i.e. outhouse, tents etc.

I havent I am afraid ..... I have heard of tithe maps but thats as far as I knew. How do you get hold of tithe maps for the area you are researching. I have ancestry .... but I have a feeling you are going to say records office locally held lol.

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Census and Resource Discussion / Re: The term Moor
« on: Thursday 26 April 18 15:17 BST (UK)  »
In the 1881 census for Cornwall there are numerous entries where the "Road, Street, etc., and number or name of House" is given as ****** Moor

Stan

Stan you're a star. I did wonder but because I've never had this on a census before I wanted to be sure. 

Since then I've located it on the 1841 census and several others lol. The terms that have been used to describe it have been


Last house along lane.
Name Croft
Name Moor
Na me Gate.

All valid given its location and so again thank you very much.

So it's 40 years older than I thought and may well be older.

If only there were another way to get further back.

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