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Dunbartonshire / Re: Hilltoune in New Kilpatrick.
« on: Friday 01 September 17 08:28 BST (UK)  »
Don, the world is indeed small!  I still have work to do on the Baljaffray Farm and Peter connection and if an appropriate matter arises I will get back to you. 

Dec

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Dunbartonshire / Re: Hilltoune in New Kilpatrick.
« on: Friday 01 September 17 01:15 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Don.  That does help me.  The link to the extensive series of maps will be very useful.  I am familiar with some of these maps but others are new to me. The Peters are frustrating me as we know they farmed at Boclair and Baljafray and also have a rent book mentioning who paid rent at Boclair between 1730-1750, but the various christian name are so common in the family that linkage to the rentees and other Peters in the early 1700's is proving just about impossible.
Many thanks
Cec

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Dunbartonshire / Hilltoune in New Kilpatrick.
« on: Thursday 31 August 17 03:40 BST (UK)  »
The name Hilltoune or Hilltoun is mentioned in birth records of some members of the Peter Family in early 1700's.  I don't know if it refers to a farm or a town.  I note there is a Hilton, which might be a spelling variation.  I would be grateful for any information. thank you.   

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Westmeath / John Peter
« on: Friday 25 August 17 08:37 BST (UK)  »
Hullo all. I am seeking information concerning John Peter who married Ann Peter in the Parish of New or East Kilpatrick in 1761.  Based on a dearth of any earlier data relating to New Kilpatrick I suspect he may have moved to the area from elsewhere.  The nearby parish of Mains seems to have been a centre where many Peter and Peeter families resided however, while potential parents can found there, I am unable to come to any reliable conclusion.  I would be grateful if there is anyone who can help me with John Peter's ancestry.
 

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Cornwall / Re: sir William St Le(d)ger
« on: Thursday 25 October 12 12:44 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks to you all for taking an interest in my query.  Firstly, as already posted, it should have been under Cornwall and not Devon.  The purpose of my post was to investigate the connection between Sir William St Ledger and the Pascoe Family of Falmouth.  My grandmother Amelia Jane Pascoe, whose family came from Falmouth (owned the Victory Inn), visited the UK with her husband in 1912 during which time frequent mention was made in her travel diary of Sir William ('cousin Willie') St Ledger, his wife Fanny and son (John) and daughter.  Willie, who reportedly resided in Gravesend also seemed to have been in command of a customs boat.  Their was also a Percy St L but any relationship was not mentioned in the diary.  From replies so far it seems that Willie was born in 1866, the son of James St L and Fanny Pascoe.  My gmother, Amelia Jane Pascoe's father Henry was born in Falmouth in 1835 and Amelia was born in Australia in 1872. 
  At present I am not sure where Fanny fits in and will need to do some work.  It may be that the term 'cousin' was being used loosely, as was often the custom. 
Many thanks,   Cec

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Cornwall / Re: sir William St Le(d)ger
« on: Wednesday 24 October 12 23:56 BST (UK)  »
I can't see any St Leger people, living in Gravsend (Kent) on the 1911 census.


And puzzled as to why you posted this under Devon?

Thanks for your help.   The Devon posting was a mistake and should have been Cornwall

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Cornwall / sir William St Le(d)ger
« on: Tuesday 23 October 12 12:05 BST (UK)  »
Does anyone have any information concerning Sir William St Leger who lived at Gravesend in 1912?  I think his wife was known as Fanny.  I am researching the name Pascoe and believe that William or Fanny have a Pascoe connection.  Many thanks, Cec

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Ayrshire / Re: Robert Speir of Dalry, Ayrshire
« on: Sunday 29 January 12 10:26 GMT (UK)  »
Mark, it is good to hear from you.  My main interest is in Robert Speir, brother of James Speir who married Rebecca Thomson.  Rebecca's brother, Andrew, was an executor named in James' will and also a witness for the births of some of James' children.  Although the Thomson line is not really relevant to me I did pursue it in the hope that I might find something of relevance for Robert.  The information I do have for the Thomsons can be found in:      'Some Old Families:  A Contribution to Genealogical History of Scotland',  page 137, by Hardy Bertram McCall. Published in Birmingham, 1890 by Watson & Ball.  The information it contains should allow you to delve a little deeper into the official documents and records pertaining to the Thomsons.   
I hope this helps
regards, Cec

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Ayrshire / Re: Robert Speir of Dalry, Ayrshire
« on: Tuesday 07 June 11 03:11 BST (UK)  »
Hullo Susandun,

thanks for your response and interest in Family speir. 

I have been seeking info re Robert Speir b abt 1703 and his brother James b abt 1705 - no luck so far.  I have an original letter written by Jas to Rob in 1741.  Jas' testament is available from Scotlands People. I have data re Jas' marriage and children but have not followed the line down any further. 
Robert Speir m Jean Broun and produced Robert - known later as Robert 'younger' or 'ygr',  James, Mary, Eliz, Martha James and maybe etc. 
Rob(ygr) m Marion Kirkwood and produced your James, Rebecca, Jean, Mary, Robert who was later on South Camphill Farm (m Martha Dunlop), Hugh (my line and eventually to Australia),  John, Martha, Martha and William.  From here on I have followed my line down from Hugh however I have investigated the wider family to some extent in order to clarify the Camphill (north and south) story and also because a grandson of your Jas, William (m Margaret Harvie) went to farm on Ardenslate Farm in Dunoon and produced a daughter, Jeanie, who married back into my line.  I have a  bureau known in the family as the Ardenslate Bureau. 
The data concerning the Camphill Farms (including Blair Park, Routedaneburn etc) is available from the various testaments, census records and sasine documentation from Scotlands People as well as from some of the cemetery inscriptions - admittedly, these do require a lot of work.   
As it is impossible to cover everything perhaps a few specific questions might be easier?
I note you use the 'Spier' spelling - it is my understanding that, at the time, 'Speir' was used for this particular branch of the family (with occasional variations), however this is an old problem and familiar to anyone carrying any version of the name .  In my particular case the 'ei' form was retained and a final 's' was added a couple of generations down the tree.   

regards cec

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