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Cheshire / Re: Mary Ann Bell Nee Clutton
« on: Yesterday at 18:46 »
There`s an interesting Clutton Tree on Ancestry. It would be worth checking the records out for yourself.
I had been looking at it before .  There is no birth registration for a Thomas Clutton  about 1850.
This couple married in 1846 in Malpas Cheshire. Not found in 1851.
WILLIAM CLUTTON
1824–1888
BIRTH 1824 • Malpas, Cheshire DEATH 17 MAR 1888 • Church Lawton, Cheshire
Sarah White 1821–1895
BIRTH 1821 • Peckford, Cheshire, England
DEATH 12 MAR 1895 • 42 Norton Street, Runcorn, Cheshire

1861 Wolverhampton .
If you look at the census page William filled it in himself, his signature is at the bottom. This could be useful  if you need to compare it with other documents.
William Chilton 37 b Cheshire Corrected to Clutton
Sarah Chilton 40 Captain Wife  ( mmn White)
Thomas Chilton   10   Son Assistant (Assistant) b Shropshire
William Chilton 7 Son
Sarah Chilton 4 Daughter

1871 Penkridge Staffordshire
Thomas Clutton 19   b Shrewsbury Shropshire
Assistant to captain of a boat

1871 Burslem . No Thomas . Sarah is 3 years older on both records.
William Clutton 47 b Whitchurch Salop
Sarah wife 50
William 17
Sarah 15

1881 Leek
Thomas 30 b Shrewsbury
Jane 25
Harry 7 b Laughton ? Cheshire
Hannah 5 months

So . Thomas Clutton married Sarah Jane Minshall in 1880 but he has a 7 year old son.
From the tree this is Harry Clutton Not found on GRO birth  Index.

c 1874 / 1875–1918
BIRTH c 1875 • Lawton Heath End, Cheshire, England
Baptism
20 Sep 1874 • Cheshire, England
DEATH 29 OCT 1918 • Military Hospital, Shorncliffe Camp, Kent, England
 Harry was the son of Hannah Clews who Thomas Clutton had married on  08 Oct 1872
Wolstanton, Stafford, England
2 Jun 1899 His marriage certificate to Mary Beckett has father as Thomas Clutton boatman deceased.

HANNAH CLEWS
1854–1876
BIRTH OCTOBER 1854 • Middlewich, Cheshire, England
DEATH APRIL 1876 • Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire . registered as Clutton
So Thomas was a widower when he married Sarah Jane Minshall

1891
Thomas Clutton 43 b Shrewsbury
You have the rest.

 Thats it. Good luck.

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Back again  :-)
I kind of gave up on tracing Alice, it was proving too troublesome for an aunt and not a direct relative but yet again, this side of the family is causing me problems.
I'm happy (I Think) that Mary Ann's parents were Thomas Clutton born 7/03/1851 and Sarah Jane Minshull born June 1856 and I'm also happy at this point with the Minshull line going back.
Again, I think Thomas Cluttons father was William Clutton born 20/05.1833 and if he's the right father, I'm struggling with his mother.
What's clouding the issue is on Ancestry there's ANOTHER William Clutton born in 1824 with a wife named Sarah White. I'm new to Ancestry and I'm struggling in trying to decipher the information being thrown up.
Any help would be gratefully appreciated.

OK. A few questions.
How far back can you get with your Thomas Clutton.
 Have you got Census records with his parents and siblings.
Have you got his actual birth certificate and marriage certificate.
Who do you believe to be his mother.
Are both William Cluttons born in the same place.

I spotted something interesting on a census but could be on the wrong track without more information  .

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Cheshire / Re: Mary Ann Bell Nee Clutton
« on: Yesterday at 11:21 »
Boats in the division.
Name of vessels

The enumeraters schedule tells you which canal they were on and which stretch.

Very helpful.

https://www.search.staffspasttrack.org.uk/Details.aspx?&ResourceID=33255&SearchType=2&ThemeID=517

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Cheshire / Re: Mary Ann Bell Nee Clutton
« on: Saturday 18 May 24 20:47 BST (UK)  »
1881 gives the name of the boat, Drake.
 If you roll back to image 1 it gives you the description of the enumeraters route.

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Cheshire / Re: I've STILL Got Trouble With The Cluttons
« on: Saturday 18 May 24 17:33 BST (UK)  »
Back again  :-)
I kind of gave up on tracing Alice, it was proving too troublesome for an aunt and not a direct relative but yet again, this side of the family is causing me problems.
I'm happy (I Think) that Mary Ann's parents were Thomas Clutton born 7/03/1851 and Sarah Jane Minshull born June 1856 and I'm also happy at this point with the Minshull line going back.
Again, I think Thomas Cluttons father was William Clutton born 20/05.1833 and if he's the right father, I'm struggling with his mother.
What's clouding the issue is on Ancestry there's ANOTHER William Clutton born in 1824 with a wife named Sarah White. I'm new to Ancestry and I'm struggling in trying to decipher the information being thrown up.
Any help would be gratefully appreciated.

I can't see a birth registration for Thomas Clutton 1851 on the GRO index.
Have you got his baptism which gave you a  birthdate,  doesn't that give his parents names.


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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Alice Kershaw Musk - Rawtenstall
« on: Friday 17 May 24 20:28 BST (UK)  »
Alice  Harwood b 23 Jan 1878.
Still alive in 1939.
Harold and Jack are with her , also a  possible daughter in law Kathleen.
166 Haslington Road.

I think Alice and Elizabeth from earlier 1881 and 1891 are the same person. 
She would have been too young in 1881 to give details in the census and possibly her Grandparents  just entered their surname.


It's just finding the link between Kershaw and Musk.


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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Alice Kershaw Musk - Rawtenstall
« on: Friday 17 May 24 19:39 BST (UK)  »
Yes it is odd but it cerainly look like it was an error and they are the same person.
I don't think this Elizabeth who possibly could be Alice's mother is the person I am looking for because Alice's birth certificate does give mother's maiden name as Musk and not Kershaw.
Thanks

What is the exact date of her birth. You have put January but what date.

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Denbighshire / Re: Ponciau/Rhos 1847
« on: Thursday 16 May 24 17:52 BST (UK)  »
Hi Max,

There is no stating he was possibly born in the first Quarter of 1847, there was just discrepancy in the page numbers there for the one born March Q. GRO has it as 288 so there were at least 3 different transcribed page numbers. Hence the posts..thinking there were more than one born that Quarter.

I think there was a possibility that he may not have been registered. It was only enforced from around 1874

Genuki gives church baptisms available from 1853 unfortunately.

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/DEN/Rhosllanerchrugog

Cas

Are you looking at St John the Evangelist in Rhosllanerchrugog.
It wasn't built till 1852 / 3
The couple married in Ruabon in 1847.

The Church of St. John Evangelist is a Norman style Church .
A parish was formed in 1844, and the church was built 1852-3,





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Denbighshire / Re: Ponciau/Rhos 1847
« on: Thursday 16 May 24 11:27 BST (UK)  »
Info from marriage.
Edward's father is David  Davies a collier.
Hannah's father is Thomas Griffiths a collier.
Witnesses Edward Griffiths and Sarah Jones.

It's possible the son was named after his grandfather.

You probably have this but I have posted it anyway.  ;)

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