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England / Re: Martin Connor from Cashel and Straide, County Mayo, Ireland
« on: Wednesday 08 July 20 07:20 BST (UK)  »
Thanks to everyone for all their help.

We have finally found out that Martin died in Gurranard, Straide on 21 February 1922. The death record says he was 53 but he would have been about 62. It's definitely him though. Informant was his daughter Delia Connor.

My cousin is going to contact Straide church to see if they have a record of his burial.

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England / Re: Martin Connor from Cashel and Straide, County Mayo, Ireland
« on: Saturday 10 June 17 12:01 BST (UK)  »
I've recently seen my grandparents marriage certificate from September 1925 and Martin Connor, my great grandad is listed as deceased. So he must have passed away sometime between 1911 and 1925.

I would be grateful if anyone has any more information.

Thanks

Brendan  :)

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Hi Teresa. I live in Birmingham, England and have visited Ireland a lot over the years. If you click on 'MY MESSAGES' you will see my e-mail address. Thanks for the info. Do you live in Rio or are there on holiday ?

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Hi Teresa

I've been researching the Gibbons family for a couple of years, but I didn't know about the Tolan family connection, until I read the article in the Parke/Turlough 100 year history book, which was released a couple of years ago. You may have already seen it, but there's a whole page about the Tolan's in Rockfield with photos and their history. It says that Michael Gibbons from Ballyart bought land in Rockfield in the 1860s. I don't have a copy of the book, but it does say who Michael bought the land from.

After reading this, I wondered who Michael was, as there were 3 Gibbons families in Ballyart in the 1850s. I found his marriage to Mary Quinn at Mayo Ancestors.com in 1868, which confirms he was from Ballyart. It also gives his father's name on the wedding certificate.........Michael Gibbons.....my great great grandad.

We are 3rd cousins. Your great grandad Michael and my great grandad Anthony were brothers. Their parents were Michael and Julia Gibbons. Your great grandad would have left Ballyart in the 1860s, while my great grandad Anthony took over the farm. He married Mary Walsh in 1878.

Our great great grandad Michael Gibbons died in Ballyart in 1896 at the age of 80. The informant was his daughter-in- law Mary Walsh.

Our great great granny Julia Gibbons died in 1881 aged 85, according to her death certificate. It says her husband Michael was the informant. This would mean she was born around 1796, however this is impossible, as her daughter Mary was born in 1853. She was probably around 60 when she died, and the wrong age is on the certificate.

The story passed down is that our great great grandad Michael was a bachelor living in Ballyart, and he employed a young girl, Julia, from the workhouse in Castlebar to cook and clean for him......and they got married !! We don't know Julia's maiden name or where she came from. Michael was known as Michael Mor (Big Michael.)

The Castlebar workhouse opened in 1842, so it's possible Julia could have lived there briefly before moving to Ballyart. Maybe your great grandad Michael was born around 1843-1844, as the census records are not always accurate ?

We'll never know if the story about Julia coming from the workhouse is true, but it looks like it is. Comparing passed down stories with birth/marriage/death records and it all matches up.

The parish records in Parke/Turlough began in 1848. My great grandad Anthony and his sister Mary were born in 1850 and 1853. Michael and Julia are listed as their parents. Your great grandad Michael and Patrick (who married Julia Kerins from Lower Cashel) were born in the early 1840s, so there are no birth records available for them. I have marriage records of Michael to Mary Quinn and Patrick to Julia Kerins which prove they came from Ballyart.

There are 2 Gibbons families in Rockfield in the 1901 and 1911 censuses headed by your great grandad Michael and John. Were they brothers ? If so, this would prove John was a 5th child of Michael and Julia.

I have a marriage record of John to Kitty McHugh in 1869 which says he is the son of Michael Gibbons. However, it doesn't give Michaels address. Anthony Gibbons was one of the witnesses - my great grandad and your great uncle.

I am also related to the Howleys. Where was your grandma from ?

We dont know how or when the Gibbons families came to be in Ballyart, and I haven't heard of a Westport link. Ballyart is about 2 miles from Rockfield. The Tolan family seemed to know a lot according to the book. I'd be grateful for any information.

If you send me your e-mail address via the inbox I can send you certificates, etc.


All the best


Brendan




 



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Mayo / Re: Gibbons, Burke and Carney families from Ballyart, Parke, Turlough, Castlebar
« on: Tuesday 02 December 14 13:08 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Mike

In the last few months, I've got a couple of records from Mayo Ancestors, and me and my cousin paid for a Gibbons family report from the North Mayo Heritage Centre.

Griffiths Valuation shows Michael, Tobias and Pat as the 3 Gibbons Ballyart landholders.

Michael (my great great grandad) died in 1896 aged 80. His wife Julia died in 1881 aged 85, with Michael as the informant. However, Julia had children as late as 1853, so it looks like her age is wrong on the record. She was probably nearer to 65 when she died.

Tobias granddaughter Maria Gibbons married Michael Burke around 1900. The Burkes left Ballyart in the 1950s, and I know some of the Burke family in Birmingham.

It looks like my great great grandad Michael and Tobias were brothers. They leased adjoining fields in Griffiths Valuation and shared the rent on another field. There's no death record for Tobias, but his name is on land records in 1882. He must have died between 1882 and the 1901 census.

We're not sure if or how Pat Gibbons from Griffiths is related to Michael and Tobias. He died in 1885 aged 74, so it's possible he was their brother. Pats daughter Biddy married Anthony Carney from Drunganagh, near Ballyvary in 1869. The Carneys left Ballyart in the 1940s.

We've also found my great great grandparents Michael and Julia had 4 children. Apart from Anthony and Mary, there were Michael and Patrick. Michael is head of house in Rockfield, Turlough and Patrick is head of house in Lower Cashel in both censuses. We also believe there was a 5th child, John. He is head of the other Gibbons house in Rockfield in the censuses. 

We think other Gibbons families from Griffiths in the area may originate from Ballyart, but there are no records available. An 1838 survey shows that Moran and Kelly were prominent surnames in Ballyart, so we don't know when or how the Gibbons came to be there.

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Mayo / Re: Gibbons, Burke and Carney families from Ballyart, Parke, Turlough, Castlebar
« on: Tuesday 25 November 14 12:59 GMT (UK)  »
Hi SMoran1. I've found out more information since I last posted on here. Who are you related to ?

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England / Re: Martin Connor from Cashel and Straide, County Mayo, Ireland
« on: Wednesday 27 August 14 08:34 BST (UK)  »
Hi Una

Thanks for the e-mail ! I was at the grave a few years ago and I know your grand aunt Marie Treacy in Worcester. There's no record of Martin anywhere that we can find. I havent been to Straide in 4 years, but maybe Denis Canning at Straide church may have a record somewhere ?

I dont know what you know about our history. Martin Connor and Bridget Lowe had 10 children but only 2 got married and had families of their own..... your great grandmother Delia and my grandad John. My grandad, his brother Pat and sister Sabina are buried in the old cemetery in graves 229 and 231.

My dad said they had great fun with their Boland cousins when they were all kids in Straide.  I was going to ask Marie about her side of the family because theres a lot we dont know. Do you know anything about Martin Connor who was married to Bridget Lowe or have any old photos? I have a photo of Bridget Lowe which was taken in the early 1930s, and we've also just had a report done by the heritage centre in Crossmolina, which found Martin Connors parents marriage certificate and burial place.

Good to hear from you



Brendan

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England / Re: Martin Connor from Cashel and Straide, County Mayo, Ireland
« on: Monday 20 January 14 16:00 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Heywood.

You're right, Martin and Bridget's ages are innaccurate in 1911. He would have been about 51 as I have a copy of his baptism record from 1860. Its very likely he was a seasonal worker in England.

I have an uncle and aunt who I will speak to again as it seems more likely that he would have been buried in Ireland, but there is no record anywhere.


Brendan

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England / Re: Martin Connor from Cashel and Straide, County Mayo, Ireland
« on: Saturday 18 January 14 22:48 GMT (UK)  »
By 1911, Martin and Bridget's children were aged between 8 and 23, Sabina was the youngest and Annie the eldest.

My grandfather John Connor took over the farm in the 1920s and his mother-in-law Bridget lived with them until she died in the 1940s. My father passed away 4 years ago and the rest of the family know nothing about him, except he used to work in England.

Does it say how many children there were as I have a full list ?

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