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Aberdeenshire Lookup Requests / Re: James Robertson Ross - 1878 birth to Margaret Ross and John Crombie?
« on: Today at 12:58 »
Looks as if they have reinvented it as Glenlivet Cottages http://www.glenlivetcottages.co.uk/
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Lanarkshire / Re: Unregistered Births
« on: Today at 06:13 »Would the birth of a child born in 1853, probably Coatbridge, to an unmarried woman be registered?Possibly not.
There might be some mention in the minutes of the Kirk Session, if they have survived. I looked through the minutes of Old Monkland Kirk Session but did not find anything about your Marion Graham, but if she was a member of the Relief Church it probably wouldn't be in the parish kirk session records anyway.
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Aberdeenshire Lookup Requests / Re: James Robertson Ross - 1878 birth to Margaret Ross and John Crombie?
« on: Today at 06:08 »It looks like Minmore house is now a hotel so I think we will plan to spend a night there when we visit!It was a hotel until 2009, but, as the description on the photograph says, it no longer is.
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Aberdeenshire Lookup Requests / Re: James Robertson Ross - 1878 birth to Margaret Ross and John Crombie?
« on: Today at 06:06 »I have been more interested in tracing the lineage than exactly when people passed away, so I never looked up a death certificate.Scottish death certificates tell you the names of the parents of the deceased, including the deceased's mother's maiden surname, assuming of course that the informant knew their names, so they are very useful indeed for confirming lineages.
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Aberdeenshire Lookup Requests / Re: James Robertson Ross - 1878 birth to Margaret Ross and John Crombie?
« on: Yesterday at 13:38 »
I see that in 1901 he was one of 16 young men living in a bothy at Minmore - 9 of them farm servants and 7 of them, including your James Ross, carters at a distillery. Minmore House was a property of the Earl of Seafield. In 1895 the tenant and occupier was John G Smith, and in 1905 it was George Smith Grant.
George Smith Grant (1845-1911) was the proprietor of The Glenlivet Distillery. He was the son of William Grant and Margaret Smith. Margaret Smith (1820-1880) was the daughter of George Smith, the founder of The Glenlivet Distillery. Her brother John Gordon Smith (1825-1901) inherited, but he did not marry so on his death the property passed to his nephew. The family graves are at the Chapel of the Incarnation at Tombae in Glen Livet.
Photographs Minmore https://www.geograph.org.uk/search.php?i=211225662
In 1881 James Ross and his mother were at Pitmillan in the parish of Foveran https://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ9724 but I am not sure exactly where he was in 1891.
George Smith Grant (1845-1911) was the proprietor of The Glenlivet Distillery. He was the son of William Grant and Margaret Smith. Margaret Smith (1820-1880) was the daughter of George Smith, the founder of The Glenlivet Distillery. Her brother John Gordon Smith (1825-1901) inherited, but he did not marry so on his death the property passed to his nephew. The family graves are at the Chapel of the Incarnation at Tombae in Glen Livet.
Photographs Minmore https://www.geograph.org.uk/search.php?i=211225662
In 1881 James Ross and his mother were at Pitmillan in the parish of Foveran https://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ9724 but I am not sure exactly where he was in 1891.
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Aberdeenshire Lookup Requests / Re: James Robertson Ross - 1878 birth to Margaret Ross and John Crombie?
« on: Yesterday at 12:40 »
Explanation of why there are 2 birth certificates.
A birth had to be registered in the district where it occurred. If, however, the usual residence of the parent(s) was in a different district, the registrar or the birth district had to send the details to the registrar in the district of residence, and he then copied the information into his register, thus generating a duplicate record.
A birth had to be registered in the district where it occurred. If, however, the usual residence of the parent(s) was in a different district, the registrar or the birth district had to send the details to the registrar in the district of residence, and he then copied the information into his register, thus generating a duplicate record.
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Aberdeenshire Lookup Requests / Re: James Robertson Ross - 1878 birth to Margaret Ross and John Crombie?
« on: Yesterday at 08:46 »The family tale is that the father was a man named John Crombie and that she had in some manner petitioned that he be listed as father. I’m not sure if there would be such things as court records.The should be. The RCE that Neale found will tell you when which court decided that John Crombie was the father, but it might be a little difficult to determine which of the possible John Crombies he was.
There are two web sites that offer, among others, information about paternity cases: https://www.oldscottish.com/Fathers-Found-C.html and https://www.scottishindexes.com/paternitysearch.aspx but so far neither of them lists your Margaret Ross and John Crombie. Both keep adding information all the time and it may be that they just haven't got as far as that particular case yet.
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Lanarkshire / Re: Sighthill Cemetery
« on: Sunday 05 May 24 17:25 BST (UK) »
Thank you! Those are three of the missing pieces of my Aitkenhead puzzle. Helen was John's daughter, Agnes was his sister and Robert Hunter senior was his brother-in-law.
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Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: John Hogg, Shipmaster, Montrose
« on: Friday 03 May 24 22:39 BST (UK) »
Welcome to RootsChat 
Deaths before the start of civil registration in 1855 are often hard to find. In particular the parish registers are very patchy. The idea was that once someone had died, the Kirk didn't need to concern itself any longer with the good of the soul, and they tended not to record what happened to the earthly remains.
I've had a look at the booklet of gravestone inscriptions for Montrose, but John Hogg isn't listed.
It's possible that there might be a reference in the Kirk Session mortcloth records. THe mortcloth was a large piece of material that was draped over the coffin during the burial service. Parishes often had a selection of mortcloths, perhaps a plain one and a more elaborately embroidered one, and parishioners would hire one according to what they could afford. The income went into the funds for maintaining the poor of the parish. The Kirk Session accounts, if they have survived, will record receipt of mortcloth payments, and sometimes the name of the deceased person is mentioned. You can look at the Kirk Session records at Scotland's People www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk - there's no charge for this.
There might be a newspaper mention of him.
When did Mary and Alexander emigrate?
Deaths before the start of civil registration in 1855 are often hard to find. In particular the parish registers are very patchy. The idea was that once someone had died, the Kirk didn't need to concern itself any longer with the good of the soul, and they tended not to record what happened to the earthly remains.
I've had a look at the booklet of gravestone inscriptions for Montrose, but John Hogg isn't listed.
It's possible that there might be a reference in the Kirk Session mortcloth records. THe mortcloth was a large piece of material that was draped over the coffin during the burial service. Parishes often had a selection of mortcloths, perhaps a plain one and a more elaborately embroidered one, and parishioners would hire one according to what they could afford. The income went into the funds for maintaining the poor of the parish. The Kirk Session accounts, if they have survived, will record receipt of mortcloth payments, and sometimes the name of the deceased person is mentioned. You can look at the Kirk Session records at Scotland's People www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk - there's no charge for this.
There might be a newspaper mention of him.
When did Mary and Alexander emigrate?