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England / Re: Robert Woodward and his family
« on: Yesterday at 23:57 »
Thank you ColC and ciderdrinker for your help.

Apologies it’s take me a while to reply, I’ve been a bit under the weather today.

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England / Robert Woodward and his family
« on: Yesterday at 02:00 »
Hi,

I’m trying to learn more about an interesting family I have been reading about in the newspapers. Unfortunately it’s been difficult to get some details.

Here is what I know so far, the concise version.

Robert Woodward:
Born 1758: parents and birth location unknown as was Foster child.
Baptism: Unknown
Married: Known to be married but date of marriage and name of spouse unknown
Spouse: Name, DOB and DOD unknown. Still alive by 1806 as mentioned in newspaper article in that year.
Ordained as deacon: 1779, becomes curate of Tarrington, Herefordshire
Ordained as priest: 1781
Final appointment: 1799, Vicar of Harrold, Buckinghamshire

Children: 3 Daughters at least, eldest is Sarah born approx 1784
Susanna born approx 1794
3rd unnamed daughter, no DOB or DOD information.

I have no baptisms for any of these daughters. Given that he was a COE Curate or Vicar when they were born, it seems very unlikely they were not baptised.

Criminal Conviction: 1817, released from prison two years later.

Here’s the long version!

Robert Woodward was most likely born around 1758. Unfortunately I have no details about his birth or who his parents are, or even what his real surname was. According to a later record by the Church of England about his religious career, he was a foster child.

He was fostered by a Robert, likely also Robert Woodward Senior who was an ordained man. He was living in Oxford. From what I’ve been able to understand of his records, it doesn’t appear that he ever took on a parish.

Robert Woodward Junior was ordained as a Deacon in 1779 and became a curate in Tarrington, Herefordshire in the same year.

He became ordained as a priest in 1781.

In 1799, he became the Vicar of Harrold in Buckinghamshire.

At some point he married. I do not know when, or to who, despite looking through many marriage records. His wife was still alive at least by 1806 as she is mentioned, not by name, in a newspaper article from that year.

I know from newspaper accounts that he had at least 3 daughters. One remains unnamed.

The other two are Sarah and Susanna.

There ages are not 100% clear as different accounts are given.

However, Sarah was definitely the eldest according to the papers, and she was probably born around 1784.

Susanna was likely born around 1794.

The family got into a lot of legal trouble and eventually in 1817, both Robert and his two daughters went to prison for conspiracy, having been accused of lying about the circumstances in which Susanna’s illegitimate child was fathered.

Sarah had an illegitimate child in 1806, which died shortly after birth. This was also reported in the papers, as her father successfully sued the alleged father for damages.

I’m fascinated by the family and would love to know what their eventual fates were. Unfortunately with so few details it’s been hard to trace them.

The two daughters were released after one year, and their father after two. I have not been able to trace them beyond that.

I also know that Robert wrote a book called “Errors of Dissenters” which I’ve skim read online and it contains no further biographical details.

Thank you for sticking with me and I hope that made sense!

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The Lighter Side / Re: Myths debunked when doing family histroy.
« on: Sunday 25 February 24 23:58 GMT (UK)  »
One myth I've seen so many times is "So-and-so had a ticket to sail on the Titanic, but they didn't go because of x reason".

I've seen it so many times, it's a wonder anyone actually made it on board.  ;D

I don't think I had many myths handed down in my own family, as there wasn't much knowledge about the family really at all. The big 'myths' have been the illegitimacies, which were usually open knowledge although hidden in at least one case. That required some debunking.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Looking for the rest of a Newspaper article
« on: Wednesday 14 February 24 21:53 GMT (UK)  »
SOLDIER’S SUDDEN DEATH AT SHORNCLIFFE

An inquest was held at the Men’s Hospital, Shornecliffe on Tuesday afternoon by the County Coroner (Mr. R. M. Mercer) touching the death of Bandsman Donaldson (31) of the Royal Scotts, who died suddenly on Sunday night.

The jury having viewed the body, Surgeon-Capt. O’Gorman, D.S.O said he had made a post-mortem examination of the body of the deceased. There was a rupture of the aorta and aneurism extending into the trachea. Death was probably almost instantaneous. Deceased had been on foreign service. He had not complained of any sickness. A lance-corporal of their corps said deceased had been spitting up blood. There were no marks of violence. Blood was issuing from the nouse and mouth.

Bandsman Eugene MacCarthy said he had known deceased about eight or nine months. He was a band man of the 1st Royal Scots Regiment. He had heard him complain of pains in his heart. He coughed a good deal at night. Witness advised him several times to see a doctor, but he said it was only a cold. He had never known deceased to go on the sick list. He had not been in Hospital since witness had been in the Regiment. He saw deceased sitting in the canteen on Sunday evening. Subsequently he left the canteen and told witness to get him some supper. That was the last witness heard of him.

Mrs. Green of No. 3 K Block, Moore Barracks, said about twenty minutes past nine on Sunday evening she and another woman were standing near their quarters when they heard a man comping up by the blocks retching. He kept retching until he got to the corner, about three or four yards away from where they were standing, then he retched again, twisted round and fell on his hands and knees. He was not sensible when witness went to him and she thought he was dead. She then went for assistance and deceased was taken to the Hospital. He was staggering when they first saw him, but witness did not think he was under the influence of drink. 

The jury returned a verdict in accordance with the medical testimony.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: ancestor
« on: Monday 12 February 24 00:02 GMT (UK)  »
With him being a noted person in history, I think your best bet would be to look for any books that discuss his career. I notice that he was alive during the reign of Elizabeth I, so it seems likely he's mentioned somewhere.

I doubt we'd be able to find anything that a professional historian has not already found.

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I don't know what that is, but I will look into it.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: She fell off a step ladder
« on: Monday 05 February 24 16:20 GMT (UK)  »
I found it, the name Zillah has been slightly mistranscribed, because there is a printing error over her name.

I found it by searching for 'Finch'.

Then I used the filters on the left hand side to narrow it down to the county of Derbyshire.

Then I picked 1909.

Then I picked the right year, month etc.

Edit: I found it in the Derbyshire Times - Saturday 06 March 1909

The one GR2 found might be longer.

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Hi,

I'm in the process of writing out my family tree.

I would like to be able to add locations to a map, and then add that to a document.

I've done this with Google Maps, but it's 'live' online and I don't know how to add a picture of the map to a document.

Is there anyway to do this?

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