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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: DIGNAN in Normanton
« on: Sunday 28 February 16 12:39 GMT (UK) »
Did you try Duignans of Leitrim and Longford? A lot of them went to England, and one in particular to America.
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Longford / Re: denigan/dennigan
« on: Sunday 28 February 16 12:30 GMT (UK) »
The fact that they hide the name normally hints at a little bit of scandal in the family.
Dennigan in Longford is normally an Irish Traveller name, or tinker / intenerant / gypsy to use the colloquial if racist expressions.
Many try to hide such origins.
A smilimlar sounding name is Duignan, also spelled Degnan, Dignan and Ive seen it spelled both as Dignan and Denigan, hence posting this...
And if its Duignan there may be a reason to keep a tad schtum about the name. All the family were very decent people. But... there is always one!
Basically, the Duignans came to the Leggah / Ballinamuck area from Leitrim, and they continued to marry into Leitrim families.
One Francis Duignan married an Ann Grey from Mohill in Leitrim circa 1871 and their eldest daughter was known as Mary Ann Duignan. The name was also spelled Degnan.
This girl was known to the world as Chicago May - and when you read HER story you will see why the family denied being Duignans, if that was there name!
Its a pity as the family was well got in Longford and highly respected. Our dawsie was just one bad apple in a good barrell...
Ive done a piece on her, and just finished reading Noal O Faoilans book "The Story of Chicago May"
http://www.writingsinrhyme.com/index.php/chicago-may
I'm not the only poet as I call myself to write on her, the occultist Alistar Crowley wrote a weird epic poem about a woman who was a lover and yet who repelled him, and he called the character Chicago May even though it wasnt about our girl as such. Why? I dont know!
Our connection is that a Kate Hourican married a Thomas Duignan, and what he is to her father Im unsure, cousins of some sort...
Dennigan in Longford is normally an Irish Traveller name, or tinker / intenerant / gypsy to use the colloquial if racist expressions.
Many try to hide such origins.
A smilimlar sounding name is Duignan, also spelled Degnan, Dignan and Ive seen it spelled both as Dignan and Denigan, hence posting this...
And if its Duignan there may be a reason to keep a tad schtum about the name. All the family were very decent people. But... there is always one!
Basically, the Duignans came to the Leggah / Ballinamuck area from Leitrim, and they continued to marry into Leitrim families.
One Francis Duignan married an Ann Grey from Mohill in Leitrim circa 1871 and their eldest daughter was known as Mary Ann Duignan. The name was also spelled Degnan.
This girl was known to the world as Chicago May - and when you read HER story you will see why the family denied being Duignans, if that was there name!
Its a pity as the family was well got in Longford and highly respected. Our dawsie was just one bad apple in a good barrell...
Ive done a piece on her, and just finished reading Noal O Faoilans book "The Story of Chicago May"
http://www.writingsinrhyme.com/index.php/chicago-may
I'm not the only poet as I call myself to write on her, the occultist Alistar Crowley wrote a weird epic poem about a woman who was a lover and yet who repelled him, and he called the character Chicago May even though it wasnt about our girl as such. Why? I dont know!
Our connection is that a Kate Hourican married a Thomas Duignan, and what he is to her father Im unsure, cousins of some sort...
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Longford / Re: Clintons, possibly from Newtownforbes or Drumlish
« on: Wednesday 01 January 14 04:15 GMT (UK) »
The name Clinton in Longford has one of two origins, Anglo or Scottish. If its Anglo, it will be hard to trace enough, but if its the Scottish clan, very easy indeed.
Their history is glorius and horrific, whether looking from a British or Irish standpoint, they came - the Scottish clan - with Cromwell, and were granted lands in Longford for "service" at Drogheda. During the Penal Times, they too were percecuted being Presbyterian, and switched sides, fighting for the rebels during 1798.
Some of the family emigrated on the George and Ann, a ship that brought the greater majority of the Scots Presbyterians in Longford to America. A descendant of theirs rose to be vice president of America circa 1830 - google him.
Their cousins the Dennistons - still a popular name in Longford, and prominent, and of the same origin - were very rpminent in the Turn Oot and suffered greatly for their part. The Clintons by now established in America helped some of them emigrate. The rest predominantly today are Catholic, though some are Anglican and a few still Presbyterian.
Clonton is an RC name today, as far as I know in Longford.
Their history is glorius and horrific, whether looking from a British or Irish standpoint, they came - the Scottish clan - with Cromwell, and were granted lands in Longford for "service" at Drogheda. During the Penal Times, they too were percecuted being Presbyterian, and switched sides, fighting for the rebels during 1798.
Some of the family emigrated on the George and Ann, a ship that brought the greater majority of the Scots Presbyterians in Longford to America. A descendant of theirs rose to be vice president of America circa 1830 - google him.
Their cousins the Dennistons - still a popular name in Longford, and prominent, and of the same origin - were very rpminent in the Turn Oot and suffered greatly for their part. The Clintons by now established in America helped some of them emigrate. The rest predominantly today are Catholic, though some are Anglican and a few still Presbyterian.
Clonton is an RC name today, as far as I know in Longford.
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Longford / Re: Somers/Hourican name change c.1855 MYSTERY...
« on: Wednesday 01 January 14 03:40 GMT (UK) »
Well, hello to someone who probably is family!!!
Mygreat grandmother is Hourican from Aughnacliffe, where they still have a pub. Her husband was a John Carty of Aughagreagh, and she had a son James (also other sons and daughter, names unknown) who was my grandfather.
Her husband John Carty was the son of a Thomas Carty who was married to a Mary Ann Mullanniffe, who is buried in Aughnacliffe, but there is no record of his burial place.
For the Donohoes, my mother was one, from Lislea outside Ballinalee, her mother was a Reilly of Molly and thats as far back as I can go. They are related to the recently retired bishop Colm O Reilly, whose family originally were Reilly, being known as "Red John Reillys", and claim descent from Myles the Slasher Reilly. Being Irish theyd find it hard to exaggerate or tell a lie. Being from Longford, harder still, and being from North Longford, you can be assured all they say is the gospel truth.
As they say in America... "NOOOOT!!!"
Mygreat grandmother is Hourican from Aughnacliffe, where they still have a pub. Her husband was a John Carty of Aughagreagh, and she had a son James (also other sons and daughter, names unknown) who was my grandfather.
Her husband John Carty was the son of a Thomas Carty who was married to a Mary Ann Mullanniffe, who is buried in Aughnacliffe, but there is no record of his burial place.
For the Donohoes, my mother was one, from Lislea outside Ballinalee, her mother was a Reilly of Molly and thats as far back as I can go. They are related to the recently retired bishop Colm O Reilly, whose family originally were Reilly, being known as "Red John Reillys", and claim descent from Myles the Slasher Reilly. Being Irish theyd find it hard to exaggerate or tell a lie. Being from Longford, harder still, and being from North Longford, you can be assured all they say is the gospel truth.
As they say in America... "NOOOOT!!!"
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Longford / Re: Collumhill?? Co' Longford? (McKeown)
« on: Wednesday 01 January 14 03:32 GMT (UK) »
In Colmbkille the family name is McKeon - note the spelling. Id assume is a Scots name from circa 1700's and of one of two origins in the area:
- Planters, who later turned Catholic
- Ulster Gaels, who settled North Longford from 1700-1750 after pogroms in Strabane and Antrim.
Most notable member was General Sean MacEoin - note the current spelling - whose family are still in the area. As a boy he was a humbler sounding John Joseph McKeon.
Fewof the family use the old spelling now, one who does is Fr Seamus McKeon a local parish priest.
- Planters, who later turned Catholic
- Ulster Gaels, who settled North Longford from 1700-1750 after pogroms in Strabane and Antrim.
Most notable member was General Sean MacEoin - note the current spelling - whose family are still in the area. As a boy he was a humbler sounding John Joseph McKeon.
Fewof the family use the old spelling now, one who does is Fr Seamus McKeon a local parish priest.
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