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Lancashire / Re: st helens newspaper archive?
« on: Friday 04 February 11 15:18 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Sammy,

Did you manage to find anything in the local newspaper archives? If not, the newspaper is the St. Helens Reporter, they have it on microfilm at the main library.
I work just around the corner from there so I could have a look for a death notice if you like.

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Worcestershire Lookup Requests / Pedmore marriage - DANCER / DANSER, 1691
« on: Wednesday 19 January 11 19:55 GMT (UK)  »
I am trying to piece together the various branches of my family in the Stourbridge area in the 1600s. I'd be very grateful if someone could look up the following for me. I have the dates from IGI but I'd like to know if there is any additional information in the entry, especially what parish they were from and the groom's occupation.

Marriage - Pedmore 09/02/1691 Thomas DANSER and Elizabeth BRETTAIL (BRETTELL?)

and in the same register, if you have the time:

Marriage - Pedmore 15/06/1673 Thomas DANCER and Elizabeth PHILLIPS

Marriage - Pedmore 10/03/1707 Richard DANCER and Elizabeth DAW or DUNN


Thanks in advance. Chris

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Warwickshire Lookup Requests / St. Martin's Birmingham - BLOUNT
« on: Tuesday 07 December 10 11:12 GMT (UK)  »
I have a lookup request for the following marriage:

St. Martin's Birmingham 03 Feb. 1839
Edward Blount m. Ann Hephzibah Dancer

It's interesting because her name was Hephzibah Dancer nee Morrell as far as I know, not Ann. Also in the GRO index she is listed as forename=Ann surname=Hepzhibah  ???

Thanks in advance. Chris

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Cornwall Lookup Requests / Re: Wendron Parish Registers - ROBERTS
« on: Monday 16 November 09 23:57 GMT (UK)  »
I just got the register copies from the Cornwall Record Office.

There is no mention of John (or Eleanor) being a widow(er) in their marriage record, but we know that Eleanor was a widow, so that does not rule out John being a widower.

More importantly, in Mary Robert's burial record, it says that she lived in Halabezack, so I think that makes her John's first wife, and Grace's mother, for certain.

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Cornwall Lookup Requests / Re: Wendron Parish Registers - ROBERTS
« on: Sunday 08 November 09 21:24 GMT (UK)  »
Is that your Grace in a Bosankoe household in 1841?

Yes, I think so.

Also, there is a Grace Roberts living in Halabezack who I think is John's Mother. It all fits together, just need the last piece of the jigsaw!

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Cornwall Lookup Requests / Re: Wendron Parish Registers - ROBERTS
« on: Sunday 08 November 09 12:19 GMT (UK)  »
Just wrote a long and detailed reply and lost it due to forum timeout  >:(

Thanks for the link to the documents ordering service, I'll order the relevent entries.

I should explain that the reason I want to be sure John of Halabezack is Grace's father is that there is another John and Mary, a mining family, living at Carnbone a couple of miles from Halabezack, and Grace's baptism falls neatly into a gap between two of their children's baptisms. I have not yet ruled out that my Grace may be one of their children.
If I can find evidence that John was married before he married Eleanor, then that adds credence to him being her father.

My info on her baptism comes from a transcript of the register, which did not state that Mary was deceased, but did state that the father was of Halabezack. Without that bit of information I would just have assumed that Grace was a child of the other Roberts family.

C.

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Cornwall Lookup Requests / Re: Wendron Parish Registers - ROBERTS
« on: Friday 06 November 09 23:56 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Osprey.

If she was a widow I suppose it makes it more likely that he was a widower also. Ah! That's why I couldn't find the marriage, I was searching for wife's surname = HODGE!

I think John's first wife was Mary Bosanko, they married Feb 1832, and she died Jan 1834. I think they had a daughter Grace, but the only thing that doesn't quite tie in is that Grace was baptised in May, about 4 months after Mary died.

C.

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Cornwall Lookup Requests / Wendron Parish Registers - ROBERTS
« on: Friday 06 November 09 00:11 GMT (UK)  »
I am looking for information on a marriage:

John ROBERTS m. Eleanor HODGE, Wendron 5 March 1835

The above info comes from an online family tree and I have not been able to confirm the date or place. It does not turn up in the IGI or the Cornwall OPC site.

Specifically I would like to know whether the groom was a widower.

Many thanks in advance.
Chris

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Staffordshire / Re: Where was he born?
« on: Saturday 17 September 05 23:19 BST (UK)  »
Hello Susan,

You could be right about the first marriage. Mine was an educated guess based on the civil registration index. A John Dancer or Dance definately married an Ann Collis in the Stourbridge area in 1846, plus his eldest child in the 1861 census is called Ann, born 48/49.
I'm pretty sure about Sarah Ann Shenton though. The only John Dancer married in this period in Yorkshire is in 1854, Selby district, spouse name is either Sarah Shenton or Elizabeth Prust; we know they lived in Brotherton (near Selby) and his wife was called Sarah, so this has to be them.
He could have married 3 times, of course. The last 2 being sisters. A check of the 1851 census for Hannah and Sarah Shenton might confirm it.

I just noticed that another brother, Thomas, was living in Hunslet, so that makes 4 brothers who moved to Yorkshire.

St. Helens is in Lancashire (or was, until some fool decided to call this bit Merseyside) between Liverpool and Manchester. It was a boom town in the mid 1800s with new glassworks and coal mines attracting people from all over Britain and Ireland. Daniel's son John Henry, and his son Richard (my Dad) were both glass workers here, so it is possible that we are the longest-running glassworking family in the world, for what it's worth!

Chris

PS. The original Hephzibah, in case you were wondering, was the wife of the prophet Zerubabbel. She was probably mentioned in the Apocrypha.

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