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Messages - Spike Malet

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Essex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Deptford Dockyard & Workhouse Records
« on: Thursday 02 October 14 13:19 BST (UK)  »
If he was working on a supply boat aged 40 I guess this does make it likely he served in the Navy before this.
I'm not entirely sure that assumption is well-founded. He might have been working in a clerical post elsewhere for the Admiralty, or for another institution, rather than on active sea-service? The required skills would be different.

My reasoning was that his actual job on the Storehouse Longboat was a bit more "hands on" than perhaps his letter to the Duke of Portland suggested. If the job of the Storehouse Longboatmen was to both transfer goods from the storehouse on shore to the boats and then also to unload incoming boats, he would have had to have done a lot of loading/unloading and sailing in addition to tallying up the Stock books. Is it more likely that he picked up sailing skills as a 40 yr old or as an 18 yr old? I would say the latter.

Land waitering is a natural extension of this, i.e. dealing with import/export taxes but without the physical side that working on a longboat would entail. If he was in his 40s perhaps he was picking up a few aches and pains and wanted a job that was a bit easier on his body!

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Essex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Deptford Dockyard & Workhouse Records
« on: Wednesday 01 October 14 16:32 BST (UK)  »
Well I think I found him, but am not 100% sure!

There wasn't a William Riggs listed in the Deptford Ordinary but there was a William Grigg. He worked as a Storekeeper Ordinary on Deptford's Storehouse Longboat for just under 5 years and left just after 1783. This ties in with Wm Rigg's letter to the Duke of Portland in terms of dates of service and, as far as I know, working in the supply chain to the ships sounds like it could fit in with working "on the clerkline" and as a "land waiter".

If he was working on a supply boat aged 40 I guess this does make it likely he served in the Navy before this. Is there any easy way of tracking down any Royal Navy or East India Co. service he did before 1779?

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Essex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Deptford Dockyard & Workhouse Records
« on: Friday 26 September 14 16:07 BST (UK)  »
Ok will do. Thanks.

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Essex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Deptford Dockyard & Workhouse Records
« on: Friday 26 September 14 12:13 BST (UK)  »
According to the text below the piccy in this link

http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/13352.html

The East India co stopped hiring their own yard but continued hiring ships from civilian ones.

Was the term "boatswain" used in civilian yards as well as military ones?

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Essex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Deptford Dockyard & Workhouse Records
« on: Friday 26 September 14 12:05 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Bookbox. Was he employed by the Navy or the East India Trading company though? They both had docks at Deptford and presumably have separate records?? The word "clerkline" sounds more civilian than military perhaps?

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Essex Completed Lookup Requests / Deptford Dockyard & Workhouse Records
« on: Thursday 25 September 14 16:39 BST (UK)  »
A William Riggs worked for 5 years in the "clerkline employ" at Deptford Dockyard c.1780. There is also a burial for a William Riggs, Master of the Workhouse at St Nicholas Deptford in 1796.

Could these be the same man? Are there any dockyard or workhouse records which would help prove it?

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Sussex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Hedg in Sussex?
« on: Tuesday 23 September 14 16:32 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Ambly,

Hedge Court is a possibility. Was there a Dodge family there?

If not, I suspect it is Edge, Cheshire as the 2 Surrey Dods that were listed in the Visitations claimed to be from there.

I looked at the pedigree on the ourfamilyhistories link you found and it looks like someone was trying too hard to continue the pedigree for the Heath family back into time. I cannot see how they decided that the Miss Dod that married John Heath of Lingfield was the daughter of Roger Dod of Broxton & Anne Done of Utkinson, nor does there seem to be any reference. Can you figure out how they made this link?

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Sussex / John GRANTHAM, Smuggler of Horsham & Member of the Mayfield Gang 1721
« on: Monday 22 September 14 14:24 BST (UK)  »
John GRANTHAM was a Horsham smuggler and member of Edward Jarvis' "Mayfield Gang". He was perhaps the one baptised in Horsham on 30 Mar 1687, married in 1713 and was still living in Horsham in 1721.

Does anyone know any more about his life or what happened to him? Where and when did he die and what happened to his two sons John & George; did they follow him into smuggling?


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Sussex Completed Lookup Requests / Hedg in Sussex?
« on: Monday 22 September 14 14:10 BST (UK)  »
The 1633 Visitation lists a single person as "of Hedg". Is there anywhere in Sussex that this could be?

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