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Cheshire / Re: BUCKLEY FAMILY OF SIDDINGTON, CHESHIRE
« on: Today at 06:56 »
Birth in 1872.? Not a convict then.
Birth in 1782 - possibly a convict.
Birth in 1782 - possibly a convict.
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Derbyshire / Re: I am trying to find the correct death date of my Eliza Whiteman
« on: Today at 02:39 »
Some background information for Joseph Pollard
Joseph POLLARD Born 26 Feb 1834,
Baptised 16 July 1837 Heanor Independent chapel
Son of Ann and Joseph Pollard senior (Framework Knitter)
Joseph POLLARD Senior born abt 1812 Eastwood Nottinghamshire
Marriage 16 Oct 1831 Heanor to
Widow Ann DAVIS (nee HOLMES) born abt 1801 Heanor
Ann was previously married to John DAVIS
Marriage 02 Jul 1824 Selston Nottinghamshire
Ann HOLMES of Selston married John Davis of Heanor Derbyshire
John DAVIES age 25 (of Lee Lane, Heanor) burial - 3 June 1828, Heanor
Eliza Davis born 1824, baptised 1825 Heanor daughter of John and Ann Davis -framework knitter, living in Lee Lane
Mary Davis born 1826, baptised 1828 Heanor - daughter of John and Anne Davis
(These 2 children appear in the 1841 census with Ann and Joseph Pollard (senior)
Children of Joseph POLLARD(senior) and Ann HOLMES
Baptised in Heanor
Hannah Pollard born 4 Jan 1832
Joseph Pollard born 26 Feb 1834
Thomas Pollard born 3 April 1836
Sarah Pollard 1838 birth registered Basford
Elizabeth Pollard 1841 birth registered Basford
Joseph POLLARD Born 26 Feb 1834,
Baptised 16 July 1837 Heanor Independent chapel
Son of Ann and Joseph Pollard senior (Framework Knitter)
Joseph POLLARD Senior born abt 1812 Eastwood Nottinghamshire
Marriage 16 Oct 1831 Heanor to
Widow Ann DAVIS (nee HOLMES) born abt 1801 Heanor
Ann was previously married to John DAVIS
Marriage 02 Jul 1824 Selston Nottinghamshire
Ann HOLMES of Selston married John Davis of Heanor Derbyshire
John DAVIES age 25 (of Lee Lane, Heanor) burial - 3 June 1828, Heanor
Eliza Davis born 1824, baptised 1825 Heanor daughter of John and Ann Davis -framework knitter, living in Lee Lane
Mary Davis born 1826, baptised 1828 Heanor - daughter of John and Anne Davis
(These 2 children appear in the 1841 census with Ann and Joseph Pollard (senior)
Children of Joseph POLLARD(senior) and Ann HOLMES
Baptised in Heanor
Hannah Pollard born 4 Jan 1832
Joseph Pollard born 26 Feb 1834
Thomas Pollard born 3 April 1836
Sarah Pollard 1838 birth registered Basford
Elizabeth Pollard 1841 birth registered Basford
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Derbyshire / Re: I am trying to find the correct death date of my Eliza Whiteman
« on: Today at 01:26 »Eliza nee Whiteman Married Joseph Pollard Jan 1874 Basford, Nottinghamshire, England
before that Joseph Pollard had5 kidsINCORRECT with his first Wife Elizabeth Smith
they are
1) Emma Pollard
BIRTH 1866 Heanor, Derbyshire, England
DEATH Unknown
POLLARD, EMMA Mother SMITH GRO Reference: 1866 J Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 107
INCORRECT2) William Pollard
BIRTH 1867 Heanor, Derbyshire, England
DEATH MAR 1943 Ilkeston, Derbyshire, England
(I am not sure about this birth registration due to the location ?)
POLLARD, WILLIAM EDWARD Mother's Maiden Surname: SMITH
GRO Reference: 1867 M Quarter in STEPNEY Volume 01C Page 504
INCORRECT3) John Henry Pollard
BIRTH (on ancestry people have 30 APR 1866 Heanor, Derbyshire, England as his birth day)
DEATH 19 JUN 1915 Heanor, Derbys, England
(I am not sure about this birth registration due to the location and date ?)
POLLARD, JOHN HENRY Mother's Maiden Surname: SMITH
GRO Reference: 1865 M Quarter in STEPNEY Volume 01C Page 503
4) Sarah Alice Pollard
BIRTH APRIL 1869 Heanor, Derbyshire, England
DEATH 27 SEP 1932 Derbyshire, England
POLLARD, SARAH ALICE Mother's Maiden Surname: SMITH GRO Reference: 1869 J Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 100
5) Joseph William Pollard (jr)
BIRTH 1871 Heanor, Derbyshire, England
DEATH OCT 1945 Ilkeston, Derbyshire, England
POLLARD, JOSEPH WILLIAM SMITH
GRO Reference: 1871 J Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 132
1864 Basford, Joseph Pollard married Elizabeth Smith
They had 4 Children: -
1. John Henry Pollard (7 in 1871 census) was born before the marriage and is registered under his mothers name
SMITH, JOHN HENRY -
GRO Reference: 1863 S Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 99
2. Emma Pollard - birth registered 1866 Basford. She married Richard Johnson in 1893
3. Sarah Alice Pollard - birth registered 1869 Basford
4. Joseph William Pollard - birth registered 1871 Basford
(Pollard births registered in Stepney (London) are NOT the correct family)
Elizabeth Pollard (nee Smith) died 1873 Basford, age 31.
19 Nov 1874, Ilkeston, widower Joseph Pollard (lace maker) married widow Eliza King (nee Whiteman)
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Derbyshire / Re: I am trying to find the correct death date of my Eliza Whiteman
« on: Today at 00:24 »
William King had children from his first marriage that are living with Eliza nee Whiteman in 1871
William King jr
BIRTH SEP 1867 Belper, Derbyshire, England
possible birth registration?
Births Sep 1867 KING, WILLIAM Mother's Maiden Surname: SHIPMAN GRO Reference: 1867 S Quarter in BELPER Volume 07B Page INCORRECT
and
Sarah King
BIRTH MAR 1869 Belper, Derbyshire, England
Births Mar 1869 KING, SARAH Mother's Maiden Surname: SHIPMAN GRO Reference: 1869 M Quarter in BELPER Volume 07B Page 479 INCORRECT
I have found a possible mother maiden name of Shipman for the above children but can't find a marriage of a William King to a __? __ Shipman
Am I right her or barking up the wrong tree?
You are barking up the wrong tree. 🐕
When Eliza married William KING in 1869 Heanor, he was 22 and a bachelor.
He did not have an earlier marriage or children with another partner.
Eliza came to the marriage with 2 illegitimate children, William Henry and Sarah Ann. They are with her in the 1871 census.
You will find their births registered under the surname Whiteman. The biological father may well have been William, but when the children were born, Eliza was not married to him, so they are registered under her name.
WHITEMAN, WILLIAM HENRY -
GRO Reference: 1866 D Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 108
WHITEMAN, SARAH ANN -
GRO Reference: 1869 M Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 128
Only £2.50 to verify births.
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Derbyshire / Re: I am trying to find the correct death date of my Eliza Whiteman
« on: Today at 00:22 »
Eliza nee Whiteman and William King must of broke up by 1871?
William King is living with Eliza nee Whiteman's Sister Mary Fisher nee Whiteman's family in the 1871 census.
No, I dont believe they separated.
In 1871 census, William King is a lodger, along with 4 other miners from Derbyshire who were working in Yorkshire. They had probably gone there for temporary work, and were staying for a short time with the family of Mary & James Fisher (also a miner).
Probably William King died in 1872 Basford age 25 Have you got this certificate to check it is for the correct person? It will also tell you cause of death. Only costs £2.50.
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Thomas Stonyer, birthpace?
« on: Yesterday at 05:50 »The document has a reference number of WO 25/552 page (i think) 20 if that helps.
For 90th foot, I think the correct reference will be WO 25/522.
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Glamorganshire Lookup Requests / Re: Capel-y-ton Calvinistic chapel lookup
« on: Yesterday at 02:22 »
The find a grave entry does not show grave stone, but has information that Thomas Locke, Mary Jane Locke Williams, George Williams, Maggie Jane Williams all died 29 April 1903 in the "Frank Slide Disaster"
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/121765089/thomas-locke
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/121765089/thomas-locke
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Thomas Stonyer, birthpace?
« on: Yesterday at 00:48 »
He enlisted at Lichfield (misspelled as Litchfield by whoever wrote document)
The Staffordshire parish could be "Hamstall" - but whoever was writing didn't know the place or how to write it. Hamstall is in the Lichfield rural district.
Handsacre is another possibility - a village near to Lichfield.
What is written looks like Hamsane - but I can't see anywhere like that.
Looking forward to seeing other opinions.
Do you have him in the census?
The Staffordshire parish could be "Hamstall" - but whoever was writing didn't know the place or how to write it. Hamstall is in the Lichfield rural district.
Handsacre is another possibility - a village near to Lichfield.
What is written looks like Hamsane - but I can't see anywhere like that.
Looking forward to seeing other opinions.
Do you have him in the census?