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Sinann, I thank you for all the help! I will check the site you gave me. I found more on the Cremin line through Johanna but my researching is put aside for a few weeks as I'm at my cabin in the mountains. I drove many miles to hook up to wifi to let you know that I won't be responding until the end of the month. Thank you again for your thoughtfulness and guidance.

You had asked for an example of my question asked in an earlier reply of a family members info found at a source but when going to the source I could not find a match.

Here's an example; On one site I typed in Julia Loughnane and a baptism record came up for her but all it listed was her name, female, birth about 1818, place of event in Boherbue, County Cork, Ireland, and spouse listed as Timothy Foley.

Under the info stated above was a source which read;
Albert Eugene Casey, Eleanor L. Downey-Prince, and Ursula Dietrich.. Index of O'Kief, Coshe Mange, Slieve Lougher and Upper Blackwater in Ireland. 16 vols. Birmingham, Alabama: Knocknagree Historical Fund, 1952-1971. Found at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City, Utah under book call number 941.5 D2c Index, and under the following microfilm: 823801 (vols. 1-2); 823802 (vols. 3-4); 823803 (vols. 4-5); 823804 (vol. 7); 823805 (vol. ; 823806 (vols. 9-10); 823808 (vols. 11-12); and 823809 (vols. 13-14).
 The cover title notes that this compilation contains the what, when and where for the sixteen volumes on counties Cork and Kerry containing 30,000 pages, 3,000,000 personal names (indexed in each volume) with number maps of townlands, parishes, baronies, and counties. Not all of these entries have been included in this compilation at this time. However, the most important collections have been noted in the annotations below for use by researchers in pursuing additional investigations.
 Volume 1: Baptisms of Rathmore Parish 1837-1874, including the parishes of Nohaval and Kilcummin, with a laçuna in the records from March 1841 - January 1844. It is said that an older parish register came to pieces and disappeared. The first available register is the one just noted. There are missing pages and many names are almost illegible. This is true thoughout the records of this collection.
 Death records from several places in County Cork and County Kerry, not recorded in this electronic collection.
 Volume 2: Births, Marriages, Deaths, Barony of Duhallow; Births, Christenings 1833-1864, St. Mary's Roman Catholic parish, Boherbue. County Cork., 2:369
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Please note that the above book, microfilm, and information is free to the public at designated Libraries throughout America and other genealogy centers throughout the world. The Salt Lake City, Utah Library offers microfilm to view actual handwritten documents from the volumes of this book mentioned above. Like I had shared in an earlier reply,.....the author and individuals under his direction had gone to Dublin and recorded all the info from Civil Records and Parish Records.

(Remember me sharing that all the documents I've found about Jeremiah Foley always listed him as Jeremiah but then I found him listed as Timothy at two sites along with many errors of names after that.)


I then went to https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/captcha.jsp
which takes you to civil and parish records and typed in, Julia Loughnane with the exact info that I found on the other site but nothing came up.  I then broadened the year date to search for either birth, marriage, or death and the response came up with nothing. There was not even one Julia Loughnane entry brought up.

So this is what has confused me for I've found this to happen often when making searches. The book mentioned above were copied documents from Civil and Parish records at Dublin so I'm confused when the book and the agencies don't match.

I hope you can find a library that hosts this book and its microfilm for it's a wonderful tool in researching family.

Sinann, when you gave me this Boherbue Parish registery, http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632556#page/10/mode/1up
referring to Timothy Foley,.....I could not find his birth in 1863. There was an area in which the writing was unreadable so I'm wondering if this is where he is entered. Did you find him at this site?

Also, I have a question. I sometimes find entries of Foley families on ancestry and family search and they make note that the info was found in the O'Kief, Coshe Mang, Slieve, Lougher, and Upper Blackwater in Ireland volumes (in which I'm familiar with) but then I can't find civil records or parish records at the Irish genealogy site that you've shared with me. If it's in the volumes wouldn't it come up at the civil records or Parish records? I've noticed this a lot when trying to send you all a link as I can't send through ancestry. The sites that you utilize for research have helped tremendously. I thank you again for your guidance.

For James Foley I found his daughter Mary's obit listing him as father and mother is Jane Cooney Foley which matches the death certificate that you had sent to me but gives his wife's name.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVS8-RJLM?from=lynx1&treeref=L71L-HZM

James birth info through same site and links him to Jeremiah Foley and Julia Loughnane. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FRQX-K5T?from=lynx1&treeref=L71L-HZM

James Foley County Naturalization papers https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89HN-9V2Q?mode=g&cc=2078306

1910 Census shows James with wife and children.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GRJB-LDS?mode=g&cc=1727033

So I went out to the Mountain View Cemetery to find his grave but did not find James Foley (the guy I was searching for) but found a James S. Foley. I walked up upon a 6 foot 'Foley' monument, (a long ways away from my Foley ancestors) to discover two names at the base which read, James S. Foley and Genevieve Foley and gave birth/death years. So in trying to locate his info online to link I was at a loss. I corresponded with the Delia Foley/Fusz family generations on ancestry to discover this outrageous story.
This James S. Foley is not actually a Foley but a Silver. Through Jeremiah and Julia Foley's child, Delia Foley who married a Fusz,....a great grandson through a child of Delia had married a Genevieve. He later abandoned her and ended up in Montana in which he somehow changed his last name from Silver to Foley which was his ggrandmother's maiden name. I wouldn't think you could do such a thing. So I decided not to go back that far as his story really messed up my family connections.

So as the rain came down heavy, I gave up on searching for my actual James Foley born 1871 and died 1935.  I will go back out tomorrow. When I tried to look him up through findagrave, he did not show up.