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Hi Charlotte, There is an Evans family of travellers listed in Eric Trudgill’s book. Alice Evans daughter of Daniel and Lydia, married Edward Jones. They had 9 sons and 1 daughter between 1835 and 1858, including Edward and William. Both sons had children in the 1880s all in Montgomeryshire. The Evans family also link to Boswell, as Charlotte’s sister Catherine Evans married Richard Boswell and a well-known traveller family. Simpson is also a name I associate with travellers. This is a generation earlier that your William Edward Evans. As travellers, they often used different names and could adopt their mother’s maiden name. They also repeated names throughout the whole family and down generations. This Evans family may not be related, but they need to be considered as they link to many facts you provided.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / GedMatch Match
« on: Yesterday at 14:42 »
The DNA Christmas presents are now appearing on GedMatch. Within one week, of my highest six matches three of them were new; then nothing much in the next 500. One of them is of interest. My widowed great-grandmother married a Romany traveller. From their first marriages my g-grandmother had three daughters, and he had two sons. One of her daughters had six children. The 1st, 3rd and 4th had no named father, though the 3rd was registered with his name, so traveller genes. As father and son had the same name, it could be either. Having followed that child, I know the match is not related through them. I now think all of the unnamed fathers were actually the same Romany. The children had common names, so it is not possible to fully trace them; and there is a redacted entry on the 1939 Register who I have not found.

Now I match someone on GedMatch with (53.3 . 19.6 . 4.04). DNA Painter says we are; 30% Half 3C . 3C1R . Half 2C2R . 2C3R. This is where I struggle. I do not know where the match fits within my family, and having made contact there has been no response. Apparently, the match has a tree that goes back to well-known Romany great-great-grandparents, and travellers for many generations. The only Romany link seems to be the one who married my g-grandmother; but the name used was not the family name, as his father changed one or both names to avoid the police. Looking through my match’s list it is full of recognised traveller names. Someone else, also related to the Romany, has a very similar set of names, with many repeated in both lists. By linking to me, there is only one traveller gene to follow. For others, travellers married other travellers, so the branches are interwoven and on times it is impossible to find the right one.

Apologies for the length of my explanation, but my family is difficult to follow and understand. When discussing DNA I am out of my depth. As the Romany is our only connection, I believe he would be my Half G-Grandfather, so my match should be Half 2C and 1-3R depending on generation differences. My match is female with an uncommon name, but I cannot find a birth or marriage record. Is there a way of connecting the Romany to my match’s tree? Secondly, apart from the link to my family, what do I need to know from my match? Basically how do I proceed?

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Travelling People / Re: Trying to trace my Romany roots Foster and Evans
« on: Wednesday 15 May 24 07:55 BST (UK)  »
Charlotte, Do you have and dates for William Edward Evans?

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Denbighshire / Re: Llwyngwyn
« on: Tuesday 14 May 24 15:00 BST (UK)  »
I only have basic Welsh, but could it be the White Lion in Denbigh?
Llew yn Gwyn

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I use the free version and find it enough for my needs. It enabled me to see where I have gaps. In areas, I find Family Search poor, so would not want to link to it.

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In looking for the father of an illegitimate child through DNA, they need to have fathered other children, for that line to continue to the present; and one of them taking a DNA test with results available to view.

Within my family there are several illegitimate children, and on marriage certificates they gave their grandfather’s name. I am also looking for their biological father, but even with DNA it is rarely possible.

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Gloucestershire / Re: Robert Jones 1841 census
« on: Friday 03 May 24 14:25 BST (UK)  »
Could this be them? Only a few years before he died, he might not be baking.
1841 Census: Lower Cheltenham Place . St James and St Paul . Barton Regis (adjoins Bristol, includes Clifton)
Robert Jones . M . 34 . Yeoman . Gloucestershire
Elizth Jones . F . 28 . Gloucestershire
Sarah Lloyd . F . 19 . Female Servant . Gloucestershire
Fredk Lloyd .M . 13 . Male Servant . Gloucestershire
Piece 377 . Folio 47 . Page 21

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Montgomeryshire / Re: Parish church newtown Montgomeryshire
« on: Wednesday 01 May 24 16:38 BST (UK)  »
St Mary Parish Register Newtown Montgomeryshire
Marriage: 09 Apr 1841
Groom John BARRETT . Bride Anne WOLLEY

I thought I would offer this, related, coincidence, or ?

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