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The Common Room / Re: Missing birth records
« on: Sunday 06 January 19 20:34 GMT (UK)  »
Just want to clarify/add in case anyone goes off down a rabbit hole....

...DNA tests match as a cousin with a guy living in Canada, whose grandmother was Gladys Boyes. Her sister was Nellie and this has been confirmed verbally from another cousin/aunt.

My dad also recollects both Nellie and Gladys being mentioned when he was small.

Based on other records, Smethwick and Kings Norton in particular seem to be the main area the family lived.

Our Ancestry tree has a suggestion (not proven) that Thomas Stokes' mother could be Ellen Jane Deakin born c1861 which may be where this info is coming from.

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The Common Room / Re: Missing birth records
« on: Sunday 06 January 19 20:16 GMT (UK)  »
Yes, we had that a while back and ruled it out but I have the birth cert for it.

It says, mothers maiden name Weston with fathers occupation as Insurance Agent which doesnt seem right as on Clara and Leonards marriage cert her father is listed as a Carter.

Its not out of the realms of possibility but I thought it might be a stretch given the occupations

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The Common Room / Re: Missing birth records
« on: Sunday 06 January 19 19:58 GMT (UK)  »
Oh hum!!

Poor Clara, problems at both ends of her life - no birth certificate to prove her parents line and no grave either!

In the absence of a birth certificate, any ideas on how to prove her parents?

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The Common Room / Re: Missing birth records
« on: Sunday 06 January 19 19:52 GMT (UK)  »
That was kind of what I thought but I couldnt find Nellie either and she wouldve been born around 1903 which is in the middle of the other children.

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The Common Room / Re: Missing birth records
« on: Sunday 06 January 19 19:39 GMT (UK)  »
So do you think that Nellie and Gladys were perhaps from another relationship?

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The Common Room / Re: Missing birth records
« on: Sunday 06 January 19 19:28 GMT (UK)  »
We think Clara and Thomas (parents) had Gladys, Nellie (who we cant find either) and Joseph.

Any help or even an explanation as to why I cant find them is really appreciated!

Smethwick sounds right...

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The Common Room / Re: Missing birth records
« on: Sunday 06 January 19 19:25 GMT (UK)  »
That sound right.  Apparently the census was 31st March 1901 and we think one of the children was registered as Hannah on the census but by the time they had to register her (14th May 1901) they had changed her name to Gladys - this fits with what my contact in Canada knows from his parents.


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The Common Room / Re: Missing birth records
« on: Sunday 06 January 19 19:17 GMT (UK)  »
I made contact through Ancestry with someone in Canada who may be a cousin - his mother was Gladys and we believe she was Clara's sister. Everything sort of fits with what we know or think we know but as I cant find any evidence of her birth etc I cant prove it as a fact.

When I looked back at census records I could find the family of Clara and Thomas (parents) but they do not appear to have ever married.  She was Clara Boyes.

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The Common Room / Re: Missing birth records
« on: Sunday 06 January 19 19:11 GMT (UK)  »
Yes i do - her father is listed as Thomas Stokes. Witness Nellie Stokes (who we think is her sister), the other witness was an I or L Whitehouse.

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