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United States of America / Re: Donohoe 1832 into Philadelphia
« on: Thursday 21 February 19 08:29 GMT (UK)  »
The passenger list says their destination was Philadelphia, and other people on that page had other destinations, so it looks like it was probably not just a default entry.

Do you know who the mother of Edward's children was?

Hi

Thanks for your reply. I do indeed know this.

In the 1821 census of Ireland the family are showing in Kilmore, Co Cavan and are listed here

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1821/Cavan/Kilmore/Snakeel/26/

The family are

Edward Donoho - 45
Margaret Donoho - 40*
Patt Donoho - 17**
Bridget Donoho - 15*
Hugh Donoho - 13*
Edward Donoho - 11*
David Donoho - 9
Ally (Alice) Donoho - 7
Thomas Donoho - 5
Margaret Donoho - 3

We also know from that ship list there was another child on the ship, probably younger than Margaret born after the 1821 census. Unfortunately the name is obscured.

* These people were not on the boat in 1832. I have some possible lines of enquiry for Edward Jnr and possibly Hugh getting married in Cavan but nothing proven yet

** Patt or Patrick married Ann Degnan and can be found in the 1841 census living in Kinkeel, Killeshandra in the Degnan Homestead. Patrick is my direct relation.

So it is possible some of the * people on the list had already gone to the US before Edward and the younger kids arrived.


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United States of America / Re: Donohoe 1832 into Philadelphia
« on: Tuesday 19 February 19 22:37 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks so much for your reply, I will take your advise.

In answer to your question, I know exactly where they came from Snakeel, killmore, co cavan and they can be found there on the 1821 Irish census.

However Snakeel is right beside killeshandra and on the ship passenger list from Liverpool they put killeshandra as where they were from.

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United States of America / Donohoe 1832 into Philadelphia
« on: Tuesday 19 February 19 18:10 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, I've found a very interesting document showing an almost entire family related to me leaving Liverpool on the "gulnare" for Philadelphia in 1832. I've thought myself how to research Ireland but I'm a bit green on how to approach it from the US side.

On that boat was Edward Donohoe (father) his sons Thomas, David  and daughters alice, margaret and a fifth child whose 1st name is illegible.

So I'm looking for some direction on where to look next.

1- how do I find out if all passengers survived the trip
2- where they might have moved to.
3- marriages deaths etc

Thanks for your help.

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Cavan / Re: What happened to Snakeel in 1841
« on: Sunday 17 February 19 15:44 GMT (UK)  »
That might be it. Its confusing as today Kilmore is a diocese but it seems it also functions as a parish. Whats odd is that today Snakeel is most certainly in the Killeshandra parish but maybe in the 1800s it was different. Tough work this research. If its wasnt bad enough peoples names being spelled incorrectly from one census to the next, now they are moving townlands from one parish to another lol.

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Cavan / What happened to Snakeel in 1841
« on: Sunday 17 February 19 14:16 GMT (UK)  »
Hi all.

Lucky for me my family came from killeshandra, co cavan. The census of 1821 and 1841 exist for killeshandra. One thing puzzles me. The townland on Snakeel is listed in the 1821 census (under kilmore which is the diocese in which killeshandra is) however in 1841 Snakeel is missing from the census. Even today Snakeel exists, and a very picturesque place it is. Would anyone know what happened in 1841?

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Cavan / Re: Land in Seventeenth century Cavan
« on: Friday 11 January 19 15:57 GMT (UK)  »
Pretty sure the main landlord around Killeshandra in those times were the Hamiltons. Castle Hamilton grounds still survive in the town. It was indeed a bloody time.

Here a nice story from the 1641 rebellion in the town!

https://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ancestorsearch&id=I4504

btw - As someone from the area originally, there is only one McGrath family in Killeshandra area today who may or may not be descendants of who you are looking for.

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Ireland / Re: Really Hard to Find Corcorans
« on: Saturday 05 January 19 10:12 GMT (UK)  »
Hi guys. Thanks for all the posts this morning. I should have told you what I know in more detail...

Maggie Jane Corcoran

She appears in both census of 1901 and 1911 in Bailieboro (as outlined above)

1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cavan/Bailieboro/Corkish/1053204/

1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cavan/Enniskeen/Clonturkan/315839/

She had a son Michael in 1912, not showing on the irishgenealogy.ie website but I have a birth cert, Michael was my Grandfather.

She had another son Stephen in 1916 (as whiteout 7 shows above)

She had a son vincent born in 1923. Born in Co Care Home Cavan Town. Died in Leitrim, living with another family but having never known his mother or father (info from descendents of people he lived with), he is buried in the plot of that family and died in 1986

Supposedly, again word of mouth from other family members there are at least 2 more kids

A Patrick and a Christopher. I concentrated on Christopher as the story is he moved to England, got married and had some kids. I dont know when or where he was born but I am guessing it was probably in Cavan in 1920 or so.

So what I am looking for is

1) Any info on Christophers life in the UK, his marriage, descendants etc
2) Any idea what happened to Maggie Jane as there is no sign of her ever marrying or dying on irishgenealogy.ie and in ancestry.com I wasnt able to find anything I could link to Bailieboro or Cavan in that name after the birth of Vincent in 1923
3) Any information on Patrick her other son.

Also, as you have seen the name is Corcoran and was in previous generations before Maggie and is still today in current family. However, in Bailieboro in the late 1800s and early 1900s the name was recorded under a whole range of different spellings and often mixes up with 2 presbyterian settler names - Corkin and Cochrane. On top of that some really odd spellings like Corkran etc. So that complicates it even more. The main point is, I have done a huge amount of trawling in Ireland and I am trying to do the same in England but it seems to me that in England there it is very hard to find anything. So what I mean by that is if I was looking for a Corcoran getting married in Ireland in 1940, i could look at the record, see a parent name, an address, a witness etc. In the UK I just only see names and no way to verify against any other data. Maybe that's just my lack of experience researching those records.

Thanks again for your time

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Ireland / Really Hard to Find Corcorans
« on: Friday 04 January 19 20:51 GMT (UK)  »
Hi all,

I've been doing my family tree for a while now and getting to the tricky parts. So I have a great grand mother called Maggie Jane Corcoran (corkin on some census & docs), born in Bailieboro in 1892. Her son Mick was my grandfather, born 1912 in Bailieboro. She had other sons Patrick, Stephen, Christopher and Vincent. She has no husband and had Mick and Stephen with no father name listed (irish genealogy and birth cert)

I cannot find where Maggie Jane ended up and no one in the family has any idea
I cannot find anything on Stephen - marriage or death or emigration except he was born in 1916 in Bailieboro workhouse
I found vincent who was born in 1922, never knew his mother and lived with a totally different family in Leitrim and is buried there.
I am told Christopher went to UK, possibly London, had some kids but I cannot find him either.

I really struggle with the UK side of things and I wouldnt be suprised if some or all of these people ended up there.

So my question is, any good hints on where to start given that I have exhausted efforts on Irish Genealogy website. Any help is much appreciated.

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Ireland / Re: Irishgenealogy.ie
« on: Friday 02 November 18 14:36 GMT (UK)  »
Thats really useful, thanks.

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