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The recently released Catholic Parish Records confirm my Ryan family were all baptised in Rossmore....and that Johanna was baptised as 'Judith' Think I may have also found the baptism of her father, Patrick Ryan, so all in all, a good result. The resords marry in well with the passenger list showing the entire family emigrating to Australia.

Can anyone confirm there is a Rossmore in Tipperary? Have been trying to hunt down my grandmother's (Johanna/Judith RYAN) details for about 30 years and am closing in now. A birth cert for her youngest son, John Joseph Gleeson, b. 1907 in Gwalia Western Australia gives the above as her place of birth. Or it might be Rossmine (handwriting hard to read).

She was the daughter of Patrick and Bridget RYAN (that was Bridget's maiden name, also). Patrick was the son of Matthew Ryan and Ellen O'Shaughnessy. Bridget was the daughter of Michael RYAN and was born in Roscommon, according to her death cert. Patrick and Bridget emigrated to Sydney on the 'Belgravia' in 1884 with their entire family:

Thomas, b.1860; Ellen, b. abt 1862;Mary Ann, b.abt 1863; Grace,b. abt 1865;Bridget, b. abt 1867;Johanna (aka Judith)b. abt 1868;Annie, b. abt 1870;Catherine,b. 3 Mar 1872; Sarah Agnes, b. abt 1873;Matthew, b.1875;Michael, b. abt 1876 and Margaret, b. 18 Mar 1878.

To date, I have been unsuccessful finding any family clusters including all these names/dates online and am keen to locate birth/baptismal registrations that will pin down the family.

I've been avoiding this part of my family tree for years because up until now, all I have known about my paternal grandmother's family was that she had a large number of siblings, who all seem to have emigrated to Australia in the 1880s, and that the parents, who probably emigrated as well, were Patrick and Bridget Ryan from Tipperary.
 
I know the names of some of the siblings, and following up on these, discovered a marriage entry for one of them which stated that Patrick Ryan came from Milford co Carlow.

As I don't know a lot about the various Irish counties, can anyone tell me how I should reconcile this latest information with the claims to origins in Tipperary?

Thank you Ken. How did you know he was a drummer boy....is that a drum stick he is holding? I have always wondered. We don't know that he entered the 50th....just thought it was possible, given that his father spent 21 years in that regiment.
He was with his family in Bristol in 1881, but missing when they arrived in Western Australia in 1883......I thought it likely he had enlisted during the 'missing' years, although he was very young.

As Nedda says, he turned up in Perth later, probably in 1894, as I found a newspaper snippet referring to a Corporal Pinker from Singapore arriving in Fremantle on SS 'Saladin' in February 1894.

A Sudan veteran would fit well with what we know from family anecdotal evidence. We lost track of him from the family at about 14 years of age - would this fit with being a drummer boy?Any idea what regiment it might be?