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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Gilmores (and Wilsons) in Ballyagan (near Garvagh)
« on: Thursday 07 December 23 15:33 GMT (UK)  »
Hello everyone, especially Ballyagan and Aghadowey
Thank you all for posting such interesting material. Yes I think my link to Wilsons must go back at least one generation further than that you start from. However I may as well admit that I am completely confused by the intermarriages between all these families, everyone married everyone else in the area. Woodburns, Gilmours, Dunlaps, Smyths, Torrenses, Wallaces, Browns; just awfully intermarried and I can't think in four dimensions. I am in touch with a couple of people who are working on the Browns of Trinaltinagh, whence the Rev. John Brown of Aghadowey, so if Ballyagan would like to write to me privately , I can share their contact details. I have over many years been in touch with various Wilson and Woodburn and Huston descendants so I have gathered up a pile of information on descendants worldwide but I am very sorry to say I have only barely started to transfer hard copy notes to the computer, so my material on them all isn't particularly accessible.
I don't think DNA is going to help; as I say, everyone is related many different ways, so DNA will just tell us that and show myriads of small amounts shared ad nauseam. Sorry not to be more helpful but there is no point in pretending! I'll be glad to be kept in the loop on any of these families, maybe someday things will click

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Gilmores (and Wilsons) in Ballyagan (near Garvagh)
« on: Wednesday 06 December 23 21:33 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Ballyagan thank you so much for the fascinating post re Wilsons etc. It is going to take me a while to digest and respond but hope to reply ASAP!

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Gilmores (and Wilsons) in Ballyagan (near Garvagh)
« on: Tuesday 04 April 23 15:33 BST (UK)  »
Hello from Dublin
I believe that my 4X grandmother was a Wilson of Ballyagan, mother of James Wilson Torrens of The Carragh, Culnaman. He married a Dunlap, who may also have had Wilson ancestry?? I have Gilmour ancestors in Inchaleen and Mayoghil. I have just about given up on all of them, so intermarried and difficult, but it is nice to see someone taking an interest! Ballyagan, have you done DNA? We may have been in touch before I think?

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Antrim / Re: Ramage of north Antrim, probably Finvoy
« on: Sunday 05 February 23 13:15 GMT (UK)  »
In 1765 there was a Thomas Ramage in a list of tenants in Aghadowey, holding Landagivey jointly with the rev. John Elder and the rev. Robert Higginbotham, a grouping which suggests that he might have been fairly socially well placed  One or other of at least two Smith Ramages were slightly later landlords in the Aghadowey area, or maybe more accurately the Garvagh area. Thomas MAY have been related to  the Smith Ramages.

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Gilmores - Robert Gilmore b abt1770 of inshaleen
« on: Tuesday 21 December 21 12:08 GMT (UK)  »
Ah good. Too bad about the bet though. Good job I didn't stake the house on it!

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Gilmores - Robert Gilmore b abt1770 of inshaleen
« on: Tuesday 21 December 21 11:08 GMT (UK)  »
I got sidetracked last night into looking at the Ballynacally Gilmours. A lot about them in the British Newspapers Archive. James Gilmour of Ballynacally made quite an impact locally, and emigrated as an elderly man to Melbourne, Australia. His son was "W.T. Gilmour", anyone bet on William Torrens Gilmour? and he married in Dunedin, NZ in May 1877

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Gilmores - Robert Gilmore b abt1770 of inshaleen
« on: Monday 20 December 21 21:54 GMT (UK)  »
Hello all
I ave no hope of sorting out Gilmours, but am hopeful that someone else will find a key to unlock them. My tree on Ancestry is called Antrim-Londonderry, but I'm afraid I haven't done much work on Ancestry and have so far not succeeded in finding Hayden's tree. I'll try again when not so tired!

The potential for mixing up Robert Gilmours is apparently endless. My notes show a Robert Gilmour marrying a Torrens in Garvagh in 1797; her Christian name is illegible, but she might be the Martha Torrens in the 1796 census. Is this a different Robert and Martha marriage or the same or a complete red herring? I don't think it is wise to construct trees yet, in my current state of wisdom on the subject.


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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Gilmores - Robert Gilmore b abt1770 of inshaleen
« on: Wednesday 15 December 21 15:40 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Aghadowey thanks for the extra information. Any idea why there is a Torrance middle name? Was someone's mother a Torrens?

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Gilmores - Robert Gilmore b abt1770 of inshaleen
« on: Tuesday 14 December 21 16:49 GMT (UK)  »
Hello to the Gilmore/ Gilmour descendants. Hope this is still a live topic. I have several Gilmour lines in my ancestry from around Garvagh, including from Inchaleen. I am on Ancestry, My Heritage and FTDNA. Hope to connect with some of you

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