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« on: Wednesday 01 June 11 18:50 BST (UK) »
isaac dawson was bens dad (b. 1842). ben was born in 1873 in langdale. (died 1958). he had a sister - maggie born in 1876 and brother harry born in 1872. benns SON harry was born in 1898, and daughter mary in 1905.
SO the harry you are referring to is benns BROTHER, not his SON!!!
i will tell you what i know about issac and his predecessors -
issac bibby dawson - born 1842 in nether wasdale. his occupations were: tailor, slate miner and general agricultural labourer.
he married mary grave on 2 nov 1865 in langdale by ambleside.
issac had 5 half siblings who his mother had wen she was married to william dawson.
william dawson died WELL before isaac was born in 1842, and on isaac'a birth certificate no father is shown! however, on the census of 1841, his mother, elizabeth dawson (nee rodgers), is shown as the householder of a small farm and living in THE SAME HOUSE is the FARM MANAGER - JOSEPH BIBBY!!!
I am guessing that joseph bibby (born 1806), was issac's father, hence the name 'bibby' in his name!!! so his offspring shpould have been named BIBBY and not dawson!!!
Issac's mother, elizabeth was born in birker in 1801, and married william dawson in 1820. she had 5 children with him - joseph - 1826, thomas - 1831, rodger - 1834, sarah - 1836, elizabeth - 1838. the 1841 shows no sign of her husband william dawson so he could have died?
the 1841 census also shows elizabeth's mother, also called elizabeth living with her who was born in cumberland in 1761. (haven't got any more info on that line).
i don't have a death date or place for isaac bibby dawson, but i have more info on his wife's line. -
isaac's wife was born mary grave in 1834 in oxen fell, hawkshead. she died in 1899 in kendal.
when she married isaac in 1865, she was a widow of john parker (born 1830), who she had married in 1862 in ulverston. (don't know date of parker's death). she had 7 siblings: ben - 1816, dinah - 1826, george - 1826, daniel - 1829, joseph - 1831, james - 1838, john - 1842.
mary grave's parents were: ben grave (1786 - 1844), who was a farmer of 50 acres employing 3 men! he was born in oxen fell, and died in ulverston. he married margaret dawson (mary's mom), on 10 dec 1808 in hawkshead. margaret was born in conistone, lancs, in 1791. i don't have a death date for her.
well, that is ALL the info i have on that line of my husband's family. benn's daughter, mary dawson, (your harry's niece), married harry nelson in 1934 and had one daughter - ruth in 1940. she is my mother in law! she married brian mcpoland in 1962, and had alison in 1965 and my husband andrew in 1968. i hope this info helps you out - we were all really surprised to find out about isaac's parentage, and my mother in law was pleased her mother wasn't around anymore to find out that she should have been called 'bibby' instead of 'dawson'!!!
kind regards, erica