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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Unnamed fathers .outside the box thinking
« on: Yesterday at 18:35 »
Quote from: brigidmac on Yesterday at 15:48
Coombs
I don't know if DNA will be able to disprove that at that level but it might be able to corroborate theory IF his descendants or descendants of his siblings have tested & IF their trees are accurate.

Occasionally I do a random name search of an unusual surname in a matches tree.

At the moment I'm doing some location searches  a supposed  paternal great grandfather came from Liverpool and great grandmother from Chatham Kent but I believe their respective parents both came from Chatham.

I am yet to jump on the DNA bandwagon but have read your OP about your John and it is a good idea of yours.

My aforementioned 2xgreat gran's likely father Thomas had a married sister but she never had any children however he himself did have a daughter born 1851 by his first wife who died in November 1863. And Thomas and his 2nd wife, who I descend from, had children after the illegitimate child in December 1863.


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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Unnamed fathers .outside the box thinking
« on: Yesterday at 14:42 »
Good thinking, and thinking outside the box can help a lot.

My 2xgreat grandmother was illegitimate, born 31 Dec 1863 to a single mother who was the daughter of a local wheelwright. The mother Mary lived right opposite a manor house in the leafy hilly Sussex village she was born and raised in. No father named on the January 1864 birth certificate. The mother then moved to London with a fellow Sussex man (originally born Kent) in around April/May 1864 and they married in July 1864 at West Hackney church. He was a manservant, a footman. He said he was the father on the child's baptism in November 1864 at West Hackney church. Turns out he was married to a very ill wife up to November 1863 (long battle with TB) when his future wife was about 10 months pregnant. DNA testing will be the way to go to confirm my hypothesis, but also I am prepared to discover if the father was maybe another man.

I even have researched many of the other men in the village she lived at with and none seemed to be a candidate, unless he was from further afield.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Mystery Match - Pointers Please
« on: Tuesday 30 April 24 18:55 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Norfolk Nan on Tuesday 30 April 24 18:37 BST (UK)
Yes, me too, Coombs.  Family relationships are never as neat and tidy as we are encouraged to think.  My theory for the start of this thread was a pregnant mum with someone else's child, not new husband's.  He was a widower with young kids so a grateful new wife might be useful.  Will I ever be able to confirm my theory? Probably not.

So it seems she married him while pregnant then? I guess if he was a vulnerable widower with children and she needed a father for her child if the blood father fled or died, it would be the perfect solution.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Mystery Match - Pointers Please
« on: Tuesday 30 April 24 18:30 BST (UK)  »
As we know lots of women were pregnant when they married, but in time DNA testing will reveal the percentage of those who married another man while pregnant, maybe they were seeing 2 blokes at the same time or the blood father fled or died or married someone else, and the mother was married off to another man. However in my trees I have found lots of instances of couples being together long before they married, such as banns being read 2 or 3 years prior to marrying, or family postcards etc to one another, or both witnessing a wedding before they married each other, or had a child before marrying and the child was baptised as if the parents were married or with the future husband's middle name as a forename or if he was subject to a bastardy bond and they later married etc.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA to solve brickwalls?
« on: Tuesday 30 April 24 18:23 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: brigidmac on Wednesday 17 April 24 17:46 BST (UK)
Postage costs from USA always have to be added to that . & There can be a long wait for delivery then an even longer wait for results to come in

Coombes I  bought 4 in one go to save on postage costs for a cousin.sister +  brother in law & one for a friend

My sister decided not to take hers so
I actually have a spare if you'd like it for £60 plus whatever it costs to post from UK
They are very light and smaller than the boxes 10 years ago

Thanks for the offer for the £60, I need time to think about it though.

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The Common Room / Re: Can anyone find previous Marriages of two widowers - a puzzle
« on: Monday 29 April 24 15:15 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: LizzieL on Monday 29 April 24 13:02 BST (UK)
Quote from: coombs on Monday 29 April 24 12:49 BST (UK)
Thing is when you get back that far, the amount of gaps in parish registers and the like increases. Records missing etc, thus meaning the elusive ancestors may sadly remain elusive.

And even if records exist they often only give the bare minimum of information. for example
Names of bride and groom and date of marriage but no indication if they were single or widowed.
Burials of wife or widow of {John Smith} poor lady didn't even merit a name
Baptisms with only the name of the child and date - not even father recorded

Yes, they were not really made for the benefit of genealogists centuries later. and info can differ from parish to parish before 1813 for baptisms/burials and 1754 marriages until 1837 when civil reg began.

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The Common Room / Re: Help to find a missing marriage
« on: Monday 29 April 24 15:12 BST (UK)  »
I think from July 1837 all marriages of any religion had to be recorded by the civil registration system. That includes any non conformist marriages. But as suggested Peter Heath and Eli Stonyer/Stonger may never have married, or their marriage was recorded in the original register but was accidentally missed when the registrar was copying them to another book to send off to the GRO. I seem to remember they had to make copies of every BMD record in the district every 3 months and send the copies off.

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The Common Room / Re: Can anyone find previous Marriages of two widowers - a puzzle
« on: Monday 29 April 24 12:49 BST (UK)  »
Thing is when you get back that far, the amount of gaps in parish registers and the like increases. Records missing etc, thus meaning the elusive ancestors may sadly remain elusive.

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The Common Room / Re: Ancestry Hints which have no relation to the person they are giving the hint for
« on: Sunday 28 April 24 21:28 BST (UK)  »
My Ancestry tree for my ancestors is detailed, and I even add custom events and extra notes, and notes on candidates for ancestors. I research witnesses to marriages, which can be relative but also could be lifelong friends.

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