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Argyllshire / Re: Alexander Grierson
« on: Monday 29 April 24 12:03 BST (UK)  »
Fortarian
              The marriage of Peter and Margaret was recorded as Peter McEllar in Dec.1797, Kilmun Dunoon and they were of Coul Glenfinnert.
  Duncan and Agnes McKeol marriage is at Lochgoilhead 19th july 1857.
 Margaret death registration gives her parents as Duncan Campbell and Nancy McNaughton.
Margaret's brother James death registration gives his parents  Duncan Campbell and Nancy Naughton.
 My notes on this marriage were as follows:  The McKoel name appears to have dissappeared from the Lochgoilhead records about the late 1770's.
McKoel is a Sept name of the MacNaughton clan so it is likely that subsequent family members reverted to the clan name or variants of it.
    Then for Margaret to be buried at Lochgoilhead confirms to me that this is where she had been born .
   Duncan Campbells family was also large with 10 children.
 Margaret was the 10th   29th Oct 1775. Her brother James was the 9th born 1773
  There is no doubt that this was Margaret McKellars family.
 These dates are from the Lochgoilhead records.
Wyanga

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Argyllshire / Re: Alexander Grierson
« on: Monday 29 April 24 02:45 BST (UK)  »
Death Record for Margaret McKellar

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Argyllshire / Re: Alexander Grierson
« on: Monday 29 April 24 02:29 BST (UK)  »
Fortarian
\           Quote"No Agnes, as you would have expected if Margaret's mother's name was Agnes or Nancy;

          I assume that in this case the Nancy= Anne
 My own mother was Annie and known as Nancy.
Wyanga

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Argyllshire / Re: Alexander Grierson
« on: Monday 29 April 24 00:34 BST (UK)  »
Fortarian and Kay99
   I am sure that my tracking of the McKellar family is correct.
\ I have tracked the births  (baptisms) of all the 12 children of Peter and Margaret McKellar on Scotlandspeople and they commence with Duncan McKellar. 1/11/1798, Dunoon Kilmun,
Catherine 11/12/1801 Slighgrachan, Dunoon, Helen 19/12/1802 Slighgratchan, Anne , 12/8/1804 Slighgrachan, Peter 17/5/1807, Slighgrachan, John 10/7/1807 Slighgratchan, Margaret 4/71810
Slighgrachan, James 26/11/1812, Slighgrachan, Archibald 21/12/1815, Slighgrchan, Mary 13/9/1816 Slighgrachan, Sophia 12/6/1819 Cuil Dunoon, Donald b 28/11/1820 baptised  13/1/1821.
 Slighgachan was part of the Glenfinnert Estate further up the valley from Glenfinnert.
 Margaret McKellar was buried at Lochgoilhead Churchyard
 Peter McKellar was listed as a shepherd in 1841 and I have a map of Cuil with a sheep fold near the houses at Cuil near Barnacabber.
Wyanga

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Argyllshire / Re: Alexander Grierson
« on: Sunday 28 April 24 11:54 BST (UK)  »
Kay99
 Thank you for the screenshot of the Census. It confirmed that it was written as Wigton , Dumfrieshire.
 But someone has put a line accross Wigton as if it is incorrect
Wyanga

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Argyllshire / Re: Alexander Grierson
« on: Sunday 28 April 24 11:50 BST (UK)  »
Forfarian
              Thank you for taking the time to update me on the History of the counties and parishes.
I had done a search on maps and had arrived at an understanding of the area. Also for the McGregor family History.
   We are still left with the problem of the 1851 Census as Kay99 has kindly shown it is definately recorded as Wigton. My thoughts on this are that there were Census collectors who wrote down what they thought they heard the individual say, speech and accent could very well have made Wigtown sound like Wigton. But that doesn't alter the fact that it is not in Dumfrieshire. He was at that time an old man and maybe was confused in his thinking.
   As you say trying to see if there are any records surviving for the pauper payments in the Dunoon Parish might be my only avenue left. Alexander's wife Helen was also listed as a pauper in the 1861 Census, she had also reverted to her maiden name of McKellar in that census and was living with a sister at Ardentinny
   There were too many Peter McKellars in the area for me to be able to find his parents but i had more success with his wife Margaret Campbell who came from Lochgoilhead. Again I had to negotiate a change of names . her father was Duncan Campbell and wife Nancy McKoel but the McKoel name was dropped and they reverted to the sept name McNaughton. They were narried in 1775. I was able to trace Duncan Campbell back to a Donald Campbell at Guananbeg Argyll
Wyanga

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Argyllshire / Re: Alexander Grierson
« on: Sunday 28 April 24 08:16 BST (UK)  »
Forfarian
              The naming of Wigton Dumpfries in the 1851 census creates a real problem and combined with the variation in the ages given it looks to me as if it will be impossible to follow this family any further back. We could never be sure just who his parents might be.
Wyanga

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Argyllshire / Re: Alexander Grierson
« on: Sunday 28 April 24 00:54 BST (UK)  »
CaroleW
                 I was unaware that ages were rounded down in the 1851 Census. This would explain other differences in ages that I have had with other Scottish ancesters.
  Also my other Gt Grandmother Ann Taylor had reverted to her maiden name of Wilson in the 1881 Census in Glasgow . So I was not surprised by Helen Grierson  reverting to her maiden name of McKellar in the 1861 census.
She was the daughter of Peter McKellar and Margaret Campbell. He was a shepherd at Cuil near Barracaber in Argyll.
Wyanga

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Argyllshire / Re: Alexander Grierson
« on: Sunday 28 April 24 00:37 BST (UK)  »
Forfarian
               I had taken that it meant Wigtown on Wigtown bay. I understand that this was the home area of the McGregor clan and at some stage in History the English banned the clan and the McGregor name and that families in the area chose to adobt variations such as Gregson and Grierson among other variations. Forgive me if my Scottish history and geography is hazy.
  I understand that Wigtown is near the boundary between Gallway and Dumfries
Wyanga

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