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Argyllshire / Re: 1841 Census look up Kilchoman Islay
« on: Friday 02 September 11 23:01 BST (UK) »
Hi Sheila,
Very interesting. We do need to collaborate as my wife's 3 times great grandparents were Duncan McNeil and Margaret Young. I think you can widen the family tree as if I'm correct you are introducing a sibling to Duncan McNeil.
I have already found difficulties with the family through variations of Donald and Daniel which may have been Dougald!
Donald McNeil and Catherine "Shaw". - We have Duncan McNeil died 21/8/1871 at 12 Old Row, Wishaw aged 85 years widower of Margaret Young. His parents are listed on death cert as Duncan McNeil, farmer, deceased and Catherine maiden surname not recorded and registered by son Daniel McNeil who made his mark.
Death Certificate 628/00 0225 Cambusnethan.
Moving to Duncan McNeil/Margaret Young children I concur with your listing although I would have Donald born 1818 and christened 7/6/1818 at Cambusnethan with the forename of Donald or Daniel or maybe Dougall!
Donald married Margaret Robertson.
In 1851 census he was Daniel.
In 1855 birth of son Malcolm 23/9/1855 628/00 0332 he is Donald.
In 1861 and 1871 Census he was Daniel.
In 1875 marriage of daughter Mary to John McBride 628/00 0014 he is Daniel.
There are more examples of the use of Daniel.
However on 1/9/1891 Donald McNeil, coal miner, widower of Margaret Robertson died and his parents are recorded on 628/000270 Cambusnethan as Duncan McNeil and Margaret Young.
Interesting, maybe he liked confusing authority!
Reference the sons William McNeil - I have come up agin a brickwall on him or them. I have William McNeil born 23/3/1823 ch 30/3/1823 both dates Kilchoman, Islay and a second William born 8/8/1824 and ch 15/8/1824 also Kilchoman. There is no supportive documentation for either William in Islay. Mystery to be solved.
I think that goes some way towards answering your points. We are back a fair distance in time and ability to read and write must be a factor as would an Argyllshire island accent and maybe a Gaelic influence.
I am interested to find out more about the siblings of Duncan and more on Catherine Shaw.
Regards
Max
Very interesting. We do need to collaborate as my wife's 3 times great grandparents were Duncan McNeil and Margaret Young. I think you can widen the family tree as if I'm correct you are introducing a sibling to Duncan McNeil.
I have already found difficulties with the family through variations of Donald and Daniel which may have been Dougald!
Donald McNeil and Catherine "Shaw". - We have Duncan McNeil died 21/8/1871 at 12 Old Row, Wishaw aged 85 years widower of Margaret Young. His parents are listed on death cert as Duncan McNeil, farmer, deceased and Catherine maiden surname not recorded and registered by son Daniel McNeil who made his mark.
Death Certificate 628/00 0225 Cambusnethan.
Moving to Duncan McNeil/Margaret Young children I concur with your listing although I would have Donald born 1818 and christened 7/6/1818 at Cambusnethan with the forename of Donald or Daniel or maybe Dougall!
Donald married Margaret Robertson.
In 1851 census he was Daniel.
In 1855 birth of son Malcolm 23/9/1855 628/00 0332 he is Donald.
In 1861 and 1871 Census he was Daniel.
In 1875 marriage of daughter Mary to John McBride 628/00 0014 he is Daniel.
There are more examples of the use of Daniel.
However on 1/9/1891 Donald McNeil, coal miner, widower of Margaret Robertson died and his parents are recorded on 628/000270 Cambusnethan as Duncan McNeil and Margaret Young.
Interesting, maybe he liked confusing authority!
Reference the sons William McNeil - I have come up agin a brickwall on him or them. I have William McNeil born 23/3/1823 ch 30/3/1823 both dates Kilchoman, Islay and a second William born 8/8/1824 and ch 15/8/1824 also Kilchoman. There is no supportive documentation for either William in Islay. Mystery to be solved.
I think that goes some way towards answering your points. We are back a fair distance in time and ability to read and write must be a factor as would an Argyllshire island accent and maybe a Gaelic influence.
I am interested to find out more about the siblings of Duncan and more on Catherine Shaw.
Regards
Max