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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Help deciphering this Naval profession
« on: Friday 02 May 14 23:02 BST (UK)  »
The ones underneath 'Ord' - Boy something?!
Any help appreciated, thanks  ;D

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Armed Forces / 1st Battalion Grenadier guards 1851
« on: Monday 17 September 12 22:40 BST (UK)  »
Hello!
I am trying to find my Great x2 Grandfather John Hunt, on the 1851 census. I know he was in the 1st battallion Grenadier guards, and the newspaper reports have him in St george's barracks in dec 1849 which matches his marriage cert., so I assume these listing are correct. That would mean that he should be in the Tower barracks for 1851 (although the last reference I have of him being in the 1st battalion is his sons birth cert in 1850).
They did move to the New Windsor barracks about the time of the census, and I know they did not always move the battalion in one go.
So basically I'm wondering two things:
1) what are the chances he changed battalions/regiments in the space of a year
2) would they have made the transition to each barracks all in one go, or would they have stayed overnight somewhere? Meaning on the night of the census they might have been 'camped out' so to speak?

I have so far found a William and a Thomas Hunt in these two barracks, and I suppose he could have changed his first name (I've had it happen twice before in this family) or lied to my greatx2 Grandmother about his first name for some reason, but he does have another child with her (I presume it's his) in 1854 so it would seem a strange thing to do.

Thanks in advance for your help!  ;D

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Scotland / Bit of a tricky one - Catherine Anderson b.1889
« on: Thursday 31 May 12 15:05 BST (UK)  »
Hello, after having a great success with a brick wall in my own tree, with the help of lovely rootschat people -  I'm now looking for help with a friend's brick wall!

She has a Catherine (aka Cassie) Anderson, born 31st March 1889, who she believes went to America in 1902 - 1908. catherine always maintained that her parents were Elizabeth Armstrong and John Anderson, and that she came from Dundee.

However the most likely marriage is 1879
LEITH SOUTH
EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN
692/02 0017

Although I haven't had a look at the image (no credits and no money! :p)
Also, 3 births for Catherine Anderson 1n 1888, 1889 and 1887 in Dundee all proved to have the 'wrong' parents, although of course we only have what she said were her parents to go on.

In regard to census records, the only Catherine that fits is with a family living in Glasgow, and then possibly with the Duff's for 1901. But again, this is just names, nothing else fits.

There was aso possibly a sister who also went to America, but no one ever seems to have met her or have a name for her.

Sorry there's not much to go on! If someone could look up some more births around Edinburgh for me though that would be great, as if that IS the only viable marriage then that seems the best place to start.

As always, any help at all appreciated :) Thank you!

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One Name Studies: T to Z / Van der Kiste Vanderkiste (Vanderhiste)
« on: Friday 04 May 12 12:22 BST (UK)  »
This is a post for Vanderkiste, sometimes (and probably originally) Van der Kiste, and often mistranscribed as VanderHiste.

It mean 'Of the Box' or possibly more accurately - 'cist' - like the grave..!

I have the family in London, and later Croydon - I also know a branch of excisemen in the family moved to Ireland (whether it was because they were excisemen and were posted there I am unsure).
The earliest I have found seem to have been priests and apothecaries, but if anyone is aware of when the first immigrants from The Netherlands to England then I would be very glad to hear from you!
:)

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Cheshire / VENABLES/VENEBLES in Cheshire
« on: Monday 16 April 12 17:16 BST (UK)  »
Hello, I have a Venables line in my family tree that originates in Cheshire. My boyfriend's family have always assumed they were part of the Gentry family of that name.
However I am back into the late 1700's and they are farmers who are not yet connected directly to the family. Is there a chance there were two strands of Venables originating here, or is it likely that if I manage to go further back (proving impossible with current Online records) I will eventually find the link?
If anyone knows of another Venables family line do let me know!
The furthest I have gotten back for sure is Thomas Venables b.1795 m. Harriet (Simpson) Parents Judith and possibly John Venables. :)
Jenny

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Scotland / Look up request for scottish birth
« on: Monday 16 April 12 16:18 BST (UK)  »
Hello,
I have an interesting (tricky) one, and I just wanted to make sure I'm not missing him!
Basically my boyfriends grandfather found out quite late in his teens that his Dad was not George (we think it's George anyway) Howitt, but a John Cameron. We had been looking for an Angus Howitt!
I bought his marriage certificate to see who he named as father/called himself, and he is down as:
'Angus McInnes Miller Cameron otherwise Howitt' father 'John Cameron' (woefully common name to boot!)
McInnes or Miller was his mothers maiden name, most members of the family think it's McInnes.

He was born in March 1922, and I think the most likely entry would be Angus M M Cameron mother Elizabeth McInnes. Yet I can't find any good matches  He's living in Glasgow when he gets married but I don't know if he was born here. I think he would be down as Cameron, but only because I don't know when Elizabeth married Mr (poss George) Howitt, but we think it was after he was born. Otherwise he may well be Angus M M Howitt.(!)

Any help appreciated, sorry if I've confused the issue a bit :S It's just he's the only brick wall in an otherwise flourishing tree, so would be great to find him
Jenny

Just to clarify - (before my post gets removed again) he died 10 years ago. I'm not trying to find a living person, I'm trying to find my boyfriends dead grandfather's birth, to ascertian whether or not his mother put his true father or her husbands name down, and where he was born so we have a possibility of tracing his real fathers family, as having John Cameron from 'Somewhere in scotland' would be a challenge even for the most seasoned of rootschatters :). If he was still alive we'd just be able to ask him where he was born! :p
Thanks,
Jenny

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Hello, on an army medical, it lists the following under marks from previous illness etc. All I can see is uoxe - possibly pox? Or is it an abbreviation?
Thanks :)
Jenny

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World War One / Would he have been allowed to re-enlist?
« on: Sunday 08 April 12 15:11 BST (UK)  »
My Great Grandad was discharged after 10 days (!) after enlisting for WW1, for (x); "Having been convicted by the civil power" . He had previously been in the army for 4 years, which I can find no records for, so I can't see if it was something he did in the army before, or another conviction. Knowing my family then, it wouldn't surprise me if he'd been out on the rob or something.
I've come across this before and they've said what he did, but here, no such luck.
However, it's pretty much common knowledge in my family that he did fight in France, and came back shell shocked. Apparently he would just sit and not speak unless spoken to etc. eventually dying of heart attack and edema.

So, my question is - would he have been allowed  to rejoin the army, or by being discharged in this way would he have had to enlist somewhere else?

There re actually passenger records and a canadian army enlistment that come up with him on ancestry, but I do not have worldwide membership so cannot view them. Would this have been a way around it? Going to canada and joining there?!

Or is there a chance he didn't fight at all and was just in jail?! seems strange that no one would know that though, as far as I know this family were not one for keeping secrets.

Thanks in advance for any ideas :)
Jenny

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Help deciphering an army medical
« on: Thursday 05 April 12 17:11 BST (UK)  »
Hello,
I managed to glean from this that he did not have an eye disability, but what I couldn't work out if he was trying to say that he did? I can't read the small writing (typical doctor ;p), I'm much better with swirly stuff!
I'm hoping he really didn't have anything wrong with his eyes, as to be blinded then told they don't believe you would have been horrible! But I'm sure they knew what they were talking about.
Anyways, any help with the top line and the first lines of the bottom bit would be greatly appreciated :)
Thank you very much in advance!
Jenny :)

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