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South Africa / John Hill and family
« on: Friday 18 October 13 15:58 BST (UK) »
Hello
I'm looking for any record of my family named Hill.
who arrived in South Africa in 1898 from England having departed London 16th Dec 1897.
The father was John Hill and his partner Matilla (or Matilda) Townsend.
It is believed he ran away from England with Miss Townsend and adopted the name of Hill(mothers's maiden name who were from Baldock Hertfordshire), his born name being Michael Saunderson born in Thames Ditton, UK
They were married in Vereeninging by magistrate Ewan Warde Bowen I would think in 1898.
Any suggestions as to how I can get a marriage certificate? I tried with home affairs a few years ago and their search petered out- Are their people specific personnel or companies who have access to records in Pretoria as a business perhaps?
at the time of departure their children were:
Harold Claude Hill aged 10
Hubert Hill aged 6
Reginald Hill aged 5
Madeline Hill aged 4
Margaret Hill aged 2
I ve heard that John Hill was a churchwarden in some anglican church and the children were in a choir.
Indeed my grandfather Harold Claude was a very accomplished organist and choirmaster.
Ive also heard that the father John Hill had a shoe business with various outlets called the
"Commonwealth Shoe Co Ltd"
I would believe my grandfather Harold Claude Hill must have finished his schooling in South Africa probably Johannesburg and would value any information on this.
Sometime about 1911 to 1913 the family migrated to Kaitaia New Zealand where they farmed.
They retired to Auckland where he died.
However Harold must have returned or stayed here and married my grandmother Dorothy Mary Ogilvie Harvey( daughter of John wardell Nicholson Harvey and Constance Ogilvie) in Grahamstown on 31 March 1913 . John W N Harvey farmed on Rietfontein between Grahamstown and Fort Beaufort had two brothers William and Archibald.
It would also be of interest to know of this side of the family too.
Patrick
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I'm looking for any record of my family named Hill.
who arrived in South Africa in 1898 from England having departed London 16th Dec 1897.
The father was John Hill and his partner Matilla (or Matilda) Townsend.
It is believed he ran away from England with Miss Townsend and adopted the name of Hill(mothers's maiden name who were from Baldock Hertfordshire), his born name being Michael Saunderson born in Thames Ditton, UK
They were married in Vereeninging by magistrate Ewan Warde Bowen I would think in 1898.
Any suggestions as to how I can get a marriage certificate? I tried with home affairs a few years ago and their search petered out- Are their people specific personnel or companies who have access to records in Pretoria as a business perhaps?
at the time of departure their children were:
Harold Claude Hill aged 10
Hubert Hill aged 6
Reginald Hill aged 5
Madeline Hill aged 4
Margaret Hill aged 2
I ve heard that John Hill was a churchwarden in some anglican church and the children were in a choir.
Indeed my grandfather Harold Claude was a very accomplished organist and choirmaster.
Ive also heard that the father John Hill had a shoe business with various outlets called the
"Commonwealth Shoe Co Ltd"
I would believe my grandfather Harold Claude Hill must have finished his schooling in South Africa probably Johannesburg and would value any information on this.
Sometime about 1911 to 1913 the family migrated to Kaitaia New Zealand where they farmed.
They retired to Auckland where he died.
However Harold must have returned or stayed here and married my grandmother Dorothy Mary Ogilvie Harvey( daughter of John wardell Nicholson Harvey and Constance Ogilvie) in Grahamstown on 31 March 1913 . John W N Harvey farmed on Rietfontein between Grahamstown and Fort Beaufort had two brothers William and Archibald.
It would also be of interest to know of this side of the family too.
Patrick
Email and contact details removed in accordance with Rootschat privacy policy. You will be able to send a private Message with someone once you have posted 3 times.