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EDIT: Someone on another forum has kindly translated this for me, so no need for anyone to go to the trouble. Thanks anyway!

Hello all, not sure if this is right place to post this, but could I have help getting the jist of the following document's meaning please? I don't need a precise translation by any means, I am just particularly interested in what Mullaghlen O'Curryn is up to.



Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

The document is from the Irish High Court of Chancery rolls from 1625 and the locations are all in Co. Westmeath (not Co. Meath as suggested in the document itself: Gartinstone=Gartlandstown; Gigginston=Gigginstown; Geffriston=Jeffrystown; Crossarderry=Crosserdree; Richardston=Rikardstown). The Dardize family mentioned are, I would stongly think, the Dardis family that are now scattered in the area and are said to be a family of Norman origin. I hope, but can't be sure, that O'Curryn became Curran which was in the locality in the 1800s and 1900s.

Hello all, I have two questions about accessing wills/probate papers in the National Archives in Dublin.

I've previously accessed one or two relatively recent wills in the National Archives, so I knew I had to give advance notice if I wanted to see the original probate papers which had gone through the courts. I also knew that because of the Four Courts explosion in 1922 that only the more recent material was left.

However, on the National Archives website they say that the following has survived: "Original wills and administration papers lodged in the Principal Registry since 1904 and in most District Registries since 1900". As I'm going this Thursday, I emailed ahead a couple of days ago to ask to see two grants of administration, one from 1917 and another from 1968, but was told that while I could see the latter, the grants of administration from 1917 have not survived.

I'm rather confused, as the website suggests that only the "Original wills and administration papers lodged in the Principal Registry [i.e. Four Courts in Dublin]" from before 1904 had been destroyed. Or is there another reason the 1917 papers have not survived?

Second question, I also wish to have a look at a few "Will Books" and "Grant Books" which are said to contain transcripts of most wills and grants from the various District Registries (outside of Dublin) since 1858. Can I order these on the day in the National Archives? How do I put in an order for one, is it a case of just writing "Grant Book, Mullingar, 1879" on the order sheet?

(This is the website I've been getting my information on what's available in the National Archives: http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy1/genealogy-records/wills-testamentary-records/ )

Many thanks in advance!

Hi all,

I'm looking for information on the parents of Austin Curry who was born on 12th August 1845 (according to his 1896 US naturalization papers application), and whose birth appears to have been registered in the Chorlton district of Lancashire. I believe that his parents were George and Margaret or Margrett.

Austin appears on the 1900 USA census living in Bristol, Massachusetts, and it says that while he himself was born in England, both his parents were born in Ireland.

I'd appreciate any information on his parents George and Margaret/Margrett. Margaret appears to be from Galway, Ireland, according to an 1851 census index for Manchester, England. But different indexes for that census give different information for George's origins, eg Woolwich, "Wodwich", neither of which appear to be Irish towns/counties.

(There seems to be information about them on ancestry.com family trees, but none of these appear to match up with an Irish origin. There are other inconsistencies also in these trees which I noticed, which makes me think the authors grasped at inaccurate information and inserted it in their tree).

I'd greatly appreciate any help at all the anyone could offer!

Many thanks in advance,

Brian

Hello all, thought I would post a question here I had about burial customs in Ireland. I found a family headstone in Carrick graveyard near Carbury, Co. Kildare. (The family were origianlly from Killinagh, Kildare, before moving to nearby Drumcooley, Offaly, around 1865). The headstone reads:

Erected
by
Thomas Curran
In Memory of his sisters
Mary Died 8 Dec 1927 Aged 68
Maggie Died 1898 Aged 30
His Mother Bridget
Died 1871 Aged 33

The headstone must have been erected between Mary's death in 1927 and Thomas' own death in 1941.

What I am wondering about is the burial of Thomas' father (also Thomas) who died in 1893 and why it isn't marked on the grave. Thomas senior's wife Bridget (listed on headstone) was born Bridget Gilligan, and the Curran headstone in question is right next to two Gilligan headstones which together form (roughly speaking) a row of three. Is it possible/likely that after Bridget Curran died she was buried in her own Gilligan family plot and that she is closely related to the Gilligans "next door" in the graveyard? Would Thomas Curran senior have probably been buried amongst other Currans somewhere else?

I suppose what I really would like to know is whether Thomas Curran senior is likely to be buried there despite not being named. Would it have been normal for a husband and a wife who had several children together to be separated in death when the wife died young?

(Oddly, Thomas junior had another sister in addition to the Mary and Maggie mentioned above: Elizabeth lived with Thomas and the other sisters in Drumcooley, Offaly, and died there among them in 1913 - yet Thomas did not include her name on the headstone, though there would be plenty room to do so. Thomas junr is not named either, though this may be explained by the fact that he was the very last of the family left in the area and nobody was left to organise the updating of the headstone. But he may have been buried elsewhere too)

Despite having looked at baptism records, I can't tie down Bridget Curran (née Gilligan) to any parents/other Gilligan relations by paper trail as there were several girls of that name baptised around her date of birth in the parish, so can't link them to the Gilligans adjacent in the graveyard by paper trail.