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Cornwall Lookup Requests / William H. ROGERS, b. August 20, 1835, England
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Can anybody please do a lookup in Cornwall parish records for a William H. Rogers born August 20, 1835, whose mother's surname was Rule? If so, please read on, and thank you.
I need help proving the parentage of my great-grandfather, William H. Rogers. He was reported in the 1910 census to have been in the U.S. before 1850, but I've spent years combing the 1850 census and have no really good candidates for the position of great-grandfather among the lot of the William Rogers of various spellings I've found.
1910 Pennsylvania Census, Philadelphia City, Philadelphia Co., 15th Ward, Supervisor's District 1, Vol. 208, E.D. 224, Reel 1391, Page 41, 838 North 25th Street, Dwelling 103, Family 111, lines 61-62:
Rogers, William H., Husband, M, W, 72, Married 52 years, born England, both parents born England, Immigrated 1838, Naturalized citizen, Speaks English, Mechanical Engineer, Working on Own Account, Not out of work 15 April 1910, 0 weeks out of work in 1909, Can read and write, Rents house.
Rogers, Marie, Wife, F, W, 69, Married 52 years, born Pennsylvania, both parents born US, No occupation, Can read and write.
My only clue is the tentative surname of his mother on his death and funeral home records: Rule.
Oliver H Bair Corporation
8500 W Chester Pike
Upper Darby, Pennsylvania 19082-2726
Date of Death Mar 14 1917
Date of Burial Mar 17 1917
Name of deceased William H. Rogers
Residence 1641 W. Lehigh Ave. [home of dau. and son-in-law]
Date of Birth Aug. 20, 1835
Place of Birth England
Age 81 yrs.
Father No Record
Mother ? Rule
Eng
Place of Burial Fernwood
Plate Inscription, William H. Rogers, Aug. 20, 1835 - March 14, 1917
Grave, Reopen grave of Maria H. Rogers buried Jan. 31, 1917
The information for the death certificate, funeral home, and cemetery were all given by his youngest son.
So I searched for Rogers married to Rule and I found an IGI record and would like to think it's my great-grandfather, but if he was born August 20, 1835 he must have been baptized before he was born if the IGI record is correct:
IGI
William Henry ROGERS
Sex: M
Christening: 3 Mar 1835
Camborne, Cornwall, England
Father: James ROGERS
Mother: Jane RULE
Film Number: 445782
Reference Number: 1-015
Endowments for the dead, 1893-1970; heir indexes, 1924-1956; baptisms for the dead, 1941-1970 Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Salt Lake Temple
The 1900 census information differs slightly in all respects from earlier and later census records. In it, he's listed as having arrived in the U.S. in 1942. I should note that these are city folks who moved from one rental to another, and also that census information was occasionally provided by neighbors if the enumerator had trouble catching a family at home.
1900 Pennsylvania Census, Philadelphia, 29th Ward, Supervisor District First Pennsylvania, E.D. 732, Reel T623-1471, Page 122A, Sheet 2, 939 26th Street, lines 32-33, Dwelling 29, Family 30:
Rogers, William, Head of family, W, M, born August 1838, 61, Married 41 years, born England, both parents born England, Immigrated 1842, 58 years in US, Naturalized citizen, Machinist, Can read, write & speak English, Rents house.
Rogers, Martha, Wife, W, F, born November 1840, 59, Married 41 years, 5 children, 5 living, born Pennsylvania, both parents born Pennsylvania, Can read, write & speak English.
Since he may have come to the U.S. after the 1841 census in England, I looked for him and found this possible candidate:
1841 Civil Parish of Camborne, Book 2 Folio 6 Page 5
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kayhin/40141.html
Trelawarren St., 1, Jane Rogers, 35, In county
Jane (Jnr) Rogers, 12, In county
Wm. Hunt Rogers, 6, In county
James Rogers, 4, In county
Eth. Rowe, 70, In county
And if that's my great-grandfather, I suppose I'm back to square one since there's no father listed.
Thanks for reading this and for any help you can give.
I need help proving the parentage of my great-grandfather, William H. Rogers. He was reported in the 1910 census to have been in the U.S. before 1850, but I've spent years combing the 1850 census and have no really good candidates for the position of great-grandfather among the lot of the William Rogers of various spellings I've found.
1910 Pennsylvania Census, Philadelphia City, Philadelphia Co., 15th Ward, Supervisor's District 1, Vol. 208, E.D. 224, Reel 1391, Page 41, 838 North 25th Street, Dwelling 103, Family 111, lines 61-62:
Rogers, William H., Husband, M, W, 72, Married 52 years, born England, both parents born England, Immigrated 1838, Naturalized citizen, Speaks English, Mechanical Engineer, Working on Own Account, Not out of work 15 April 1910, 0 weeks out of work in 1909, Can read and write, Rents house.
Rogers, Marie, Wife, F, W, 69, Married 52 years, born Pennsylvania, both parents born US, No occupation, Can read and write.
My only clue is the tentative surname of his mother on his death and funeral home records: Rule.
Oliver H Bair Corporation
8500 W Chester Pike
Upper Darby, Pennsylvania 19082-2726
Date of Death Mar 14 1917
Date of Burial Mar 17 1917
Name of deceased William H. Rogers
Residence 1641 W. Lehigh Ave. [home of dau. and son-in-law]
Date of Birth Aug. 20, 1835
Place of Birth England
Age 81 yrs.
Father No Record
Mother ? Rule
Eng
Place of Burial Fernwood
Plate Inscription, William H. Rogers, Aug. 20, 1835 - March 14, 1917
Grave, Reopen grave of Maria H. Rogers buried Jan. 31, 1917
The information for the death certificate, funeral home, and cemetery were all given by his youngest son.
So I searched for Rogers married to Rule and I found an IGI record and would like to think it's my great-grandfather, but if he was born August 20, 1835 he must have been baptized before he was born if the IGI record is correct:
IGI
William Henry ROGERS
Sex: M
Christening: 3 Mar 1835
Camborne, Cornwall, England
Father: James ROGERS
Mother: Jane RULE
Film Number: 445782
Reference Number: 1-015
Endowments for the dead, 1893-1970; heir indexes, 1924-1956; baptisms for the dead, 1941-1970 Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Salt Lake Temple
The 1900 census information differs slightly in all respects from earlier and later census records. In it, he's listed as having arrived in the U.S. in 1942. I should note that these are city folks who moved from one rental to another, and also that census information was occasionally provided by neighbors if the enumerator had trouble catching a family at home.
1900 Pennsylvania Census, Philadelphia, 29th Ward, Supervisor District First Pennsylvania, E.D. 732, Reel T623-1471, Page 122A, Sheet 2, 939 26th Street, lines 32-33, Dwelling 29, Family 30:
Rogers, William, Head of family, W, M, born August 1838, 61, Married 41 years, born England, both parents born England, Immigrated 1842, 58 years in US, Naturalized citizen, Machinist, Can read, write & speak English, Rents house.
Rogers, Martha, Wife, W, F, born November 1840, 59, Married 41 years, 5 children, 5 living, born Pennsylvania, both parents born Pennsylvania, Can read, write & speak English.
Since he may have come to the U.S. after the 1841 census in England, I looked for him and found this possible candidate:
1841 Civil Parish of Camborne, Book 2 Folio 6 Page 5
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kayhin/40141.html
Trelawarren St., 1, Jane Rogers, 35, In county
Jane (Jnr) Rogers, 12, In county
Wm. Hunt Rogers, 6, In county
James Rogers, 4, In county
Eth. Rowe, 70, In county
And if that's my great-grandfather, I suppose I'm back to square one since there's no father listed.
Thanks for reading this and for any help you can give.