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Cumberland / Allan or Allen family at Flimby, Cumberland, early 1800s
« on: Monday 05 May 14 11:10 BST (UK)  »
I am looking at what appear to be a family living at Flimby, Cumberland.

Charles Allan and Hannah appear to have six children baptised almost like clockwork.

Robert 10 September 1808
Joseph 30 September 1810
Ann   13 September 1812
Mary  2 October 1814
Hannah  18 September 1816
Elizabeth  9 July 1820

The six baptisms just listed come up from a search at FamilySearch.org

The CumberlandRoots website also has:

John, baptised 18 Jan 1807  ,  child of Chas Allan collier and Hannah his wife

and Robert and Joseph and Ann,   and it doesn't have the last three because the transcription of the Flimby register seems to end in 1812.


I could not find these people in the later censuses,  and wouldn't really expect to, as the children would have married and left home.

The marriage of Charles and Hannah wasn't obvious,  until I tried google and found, on google books,  what appears to be a bound volume of issues of some kind of almanac called "The Monthly Magazine ; or British Register",  which contains all sorts of bizarre news including reports on new books and patents, diseases, poetry, and news from various counties.  I wasted hours reading it.

in which appears,  on page 575 in the January 1806 issue,  a list of about half a dozen ( presumably recent ) marriages in Cumberland and Westmoreland,  including "At Dean,  Mr Charles Allen, of Flimby, to Miss Hannah Ritson,  daughter of the late Mr John R. of Branthwaite."

and back at page 184 in the same volume, September 1805 issue,  "died ....  at Branthwaite, very suddenly, Mrs Ann Ritson, relict of Mr John Ritson".

Dean is a place not far from Flimby and Branthwaite appears to be an even smaller place, near Dean.

I am slightly bamboozled by this.  Why is this marriage mentioned in this almanac ?  Is Charles ALLAN, collier of Flimby,  likely to be the same person as Charles ALLEN,  of Flimby,  or a different Charles,  who just happens to also marry a woman called Hannah,  about a year before their first child is born ?

Would "collier" here mean a miner,  or some kind of coal merchant ?

There is a Hannah Ritson,  father John,  baptised at Cockermouth in 1760,   which would be a bit implausible to embark on having seven children starting in 1806.

Hints, suggestions or advice, welcome !





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