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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Scottish death certificate help
« on: Monday 31 August 20 12:18 BST (UK)  »
Hello,

I wonder if I could ask for some help with deciphering the handwriting on the attached death certificate from Scotland please?

This is what I've been able to work out myself so far:

John Hughes
Skin Dresser
Widower of Agnes Ferrie

1906, June Thirtieth
9??h 0m am
Royal Asylum Edinburgh
?????? 30 Marlborough Street Glasgow

M

50yrs

John Hughes (deceased)
Mary Hughes M.S. Hughes (deceased)

General Paralysis
duration indefinite
Phthisis Pulmonalis
duration indefinite
?????? (-think this is just the doctor's information which I'm not too bothered about)

M. Savage
Daughter
30 Marlborough Street Glasgow

1906 July 2nd
Edinburgh
John J. ?????? (-not too bothered about this)

As you can see, I've managed to decipher most of it, but the bit I could do with some help with is where he died. I can read Royal Asylum, Edinburgh and something about 30 Marlborough Street, Glasgow - but I'm not sure of the couple of words in between. It seems that his daughter lived in Glasgow so I'm guessing he was in some way connected to 30 Marlborough Street but why he ended up in the asylum in Edinburgh I'm not sure. He was actually born and grew up in Edinburgh, then moved to Liverpool and seemingly ended up in Scotland again after his wife died. I believe asylums kept quite detailed patient records so I have sent off for some information about him to Lothian Health Services Archive. Not expecting anything soon with the coronavirus situation but you never know.

Anyway, if somebody would be able to help me to decipher those couple of words I would be most grateful. Thanks in advance.

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The Common Room / Parentage problems!
« on: Saturday 18 August 18 11:57 BST (UK)  »
I have come across a bit of a puzzle re: the parentage of a person I am researching. Forgive me, but I am going to anonymise as much as I can.

The problem starts with the birth of a child, John, into a poor family in an urban area shortly before 1900. He was born on 5th August and was registered under his mother's surname with no father listed on the birth certificate. On the certificate, his mother's name is Amelia and she was unmarried at the time. She married about six months later and John lived with this family during his formative years, even stating Amelia's husband as his father when he got married. During some early censuses, he has two surnames - his mother's and his "father's". Eventually he only used his "father's" name.

That was all quite logical - I assumed that Amelia had had John with the man she married but as they weren't legally married at the time of his birth, his father's name couldn't be entered onto the birth certificate.

The problem came when I tracked down John's baptism record in the Catholic church. The baptism entry is the correct one - his date of birth is consistent with his birth certificate (5th August) - and the godmother is Mary Jane who is Amelia's twin sister. John was baptised on 22nd August. No father is listed here - as to be expected - but the strange thing is that his mother is "Helenae", Latin for Helen - not Amelia, as I was expecting.

The curious thing is - Amelia had a younger sister called Ellen! The problem is that if Ellen was indeed John's mother - she would only have been about 12 years old when he was born!

So the question is - do you think it would have been possible for a 12 year old to have carried a child? And that in between baptism and the registration of his birth (much later on 16th September), Amelia decided to raise John as her own? And that when she married, John took his name instead? I should point out here that on the first census John appears on, he is listed under his maternal grandfather (with both surnames!) as "grandson" - despite the fact that Amelia, her husband and two legitimate children were also living in the same house, but they were listed separately as another family unit. John is not listed as being in their "household". The other anecdotal evidence for this would be that I have been told that John never got on well with his "family" and nothing much has ever been spoken about with regards to his relatives.

Or - could I be blowing this all out of proportion and it's simply a case of some priest writing the wrong name in the baptism register?

I would be very grateful if I could benefit from your collective wisdom on this one! Which scenario do you think is possible/probable? Will I ever get a definitive answer?

Many thanks.

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The Common Room / Advice on Workhouse/poor in Liverpool
« on: Saturday 18 November 17 15:55 GMT (UK)  »
Hello,

I've been looking at the admissions/religious creed registers for the Liverpool Workhouse which used to be located on Brownlow Hill and have come across some interesting entries for my 3rd great grandfather in the year before he died.

To cut a long story short, he was an Irish immigrant although he came with his family much later than the famine - I've pinpointed their arrival to about 1876. He was a boot maker and lived in the Mount Pleasant/Copperas Hill area.

The reason I'm posting this is because he was admitted to the workhouse a total of 8 times between December 1907 and when he finally died there in September 1908. His death certificate states that he died from "morbus cordis" which seems to have generally meant heart failure or death by natural causes if the doctor wasn't certain of the exact cause of death.

The interesting part is that I know his wife and son (married) were living at various houses on Blake Street (which seem to vary slightly month-to-month!) and on some occasions he was admitted from Blake Street. However, on about 3 of the occasions he was admitted to the workhouse that year, he was admitted from 129 Islington, or "Hignett's L.H.". After some research using the 1911 census, it seems that this was a lodging house on Islington.

Does anyone have any idea why he might have been living in a lodging house when I know his wife/son were on Blake Street (even when he is recorded as having been admitted from the lodging house, his wife is listed as being on Blake Street)? And why do you think he was admitted so many times in such a short amount of time? On one of the admissions, it says he was "found on Gill Street". Do you think this might suggest drunkenness? Or could it really have been his heart that caused him so much trouble? If it's any help, his stays in the workhouse were always fairly short (usually a few days) and in one case, he was admitted and discharged twice in a week!

Hoping that someone more educated in such things might be able to give me some suggestions to help explain this.

Many thanks,

Rob

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Worcestershire Lookup Requests / Burial lookup request - Great Malvern
« on: Saturday 27 May 17 23:48 BST (UK)  »
Hello,

If anyone who lives in Worcestershire would be willing to look up an ancestor for me I would be very grateful for your help. I live in Liverpool so it is not possible for me to easily do this myself.

My great-grandfather was called Lionel Francis Lane and he died on 15th October 1941, aged 56 years, at North End Cottage, Lower Wyche, Great Malvern. It has always been a mystery as to where Lionel is buried and I wondered whether some kind soul might be able to help me to locate his final resting place?

My knowledge of the area is extremely limited, so I would be grateful if I could benefit from someone's local knowledge and expertise. If possible, I would like to find out where he is buried, i.e. cemetery, section/grave number etc. so that if I ever manage to visit the area, I could pay my respects.

If anyone can help please do let me know if I can provide some more information.

Many thanks
Best wishes
Robert

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World War Two / Help understanding my grandad's army service record
« on: Thursday 11 May 17 19:27 BST (UK)  »
Hello,

I requested my late grandad's army service records in January and after a 4 month wait I have finally received a good number of documents. I can understand most of it - such as his regiments, battalions, medals, military conduct comment etc. It brought a lump to my throat to read his military conduct was "exemplary". Feeling very proud of his achievements.

Anyway, my grandad told me that he served in India/Burma in the King's Own Scottish Borderers and I know he suffered a gunshot wound to the abdomen. However, I am having some difficulty understanding the specific details of his military career, postings etc. A lot of it is in military jargon that I just can't fathom out.

I was wondering if it would be possible for some kind soul to help me with translating the attached documents? It would mean a very great deal to me and my Dad to be able to understand more about Grandad's military service.

Many thanks in advance,

Rob

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World War Two / Help with WW2 RAF service record please!
« on: Thursday 09 February 17 17:33 GMT (UK)  »
Hello,

I have just received my Grandpa's RAF service record. After trying to decipher the jargon using the RAF's helpful terminology guide, I'm still having some difficulty understanding where my Grandpa was posted, his units, movements etc.

Would anyone be willing to take a quick look at the attached photos to help me out please? If you can give me any insight into what it all means, I would be very grateful indeed.

Many thanks!

Rob

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Hello All,

I am struggling to read a surname on a marriage certificate from Scotland and wondered if anyone might be able to please help?

I have attached the image to this post. It is the mother's maiden name that I can't understand. As far as I can tell, the rest of it says:

James Hughes
Labourer (Deceased)
and Mary Hughes
M.S.  XXXXXXXX
(Deceased)

Would anyone be able to have a go at deciphering this missing name please? It seems to start with an 'S' and possibly contains an 'i' as well?

Many thanks

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World War One / Help with understanding military records - Sherwood Foresters
« on: Sunday 08 January 17 23:24 GMT (UK)  »
Hello,

I have managed to locate and download the WW1 military service record of my great-grandfather, Charles Draycott. When he enlisted in 1915 he joined the Sherwood Foresters and was subsequently transferred a couple of times. However, I am a complete novice at interpreting war records and would be very grateful for some assistance.

I am interested in finding out (possibly from war diaries?) whereabouts my great-grandfather fought during active service in France. His B103 form (attached) is a bit of a mess and I can't work out which battalion(s) he served in. I think I will need this information if I want to find specific war diaries.

I would be grateful for any assistance at all!

Many thanks

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