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Hi,

Who are the people getting married? 

The whole thing is here:

https://historical.ha.com/itm/autographs/statesmen/1647-marriage-contract-signed-by-queen-henriette-marie-wife-of-king-charles-i-of-england-and-her-son-the-future-king-charle/a/626-26703.s

One has to register to see it, but it's free.

A lot of these people were in service to either Queen Henrietta Maria, or her son Prince Charles (later Charles II), so there are a lot of references to that.

I just cannot pinpoint the bridal couple.

Given names in the document that I know of (in order of first appearance):

Charles de Lux
Marguerite Courtin
Jacques de Lux
Jacques Coignet
Elizabeth Garnier
Henrietta Maria Coignet
Louis de Lux
Francoise de Lux
Jean Garnier
Francoise de Monbaudiac

But I can't seem to get a hold of who the bride and groom are.

Would really appreciate some help on this 

As far as I can tell this is an administration act in Latin. The second and third words I think are ‘Thome Leman’, but otherwise I am lost!

I think I have included the entire relevant part

This will cost me (almost) quite literally blood, sweat and tears to find

I knew it existed, because it is indexed in this book here:

Index of wills proved in the Prerogative court of Canterbury 1383-1558. And now preserved in the principal Probate registry, Somerset house, London
https://archive.org/details/indexofwillsprov10chur/page/26

(Said indexed entry has also been digitalised by Ancestry here:

Text: 1514 Aylemer, Aymere, Richiard, St. Peter Mancrofte, Norwich 31 Fetiplace
In their: Collection: England: Canterbury - Wills Proved in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury, 1383-1558 (A-J))

Using the information in the indexed entry and a painstaking (and painful) look-at-one-image-at-time approach and eventually cheating by finding another will with the same coding that had been transcribed properly and then working forwards and backwards from there again employing the same painstaking (and painful) look-at-one-image-at-time approach, I found it!

Ancestry has the name transcribed as Richard Dymore, Probate: 22 Feb 1514

I am fairly certain that this would the same will that the National Archives have here:

Will of Richard Rymere
Reference: PROB 11/17/615
Description: Will of Richard Rymere
Date: 26 February 1515
Held by: The National Archives, Kew
Legal status: Public Record(s)
Closure status: Open Document, Open Description
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D974713

I do believe, however, and I hope that the group will agree with me, that this is our very own Richard Aylmer (d.1512) of Norwich

The son of Robert Aylmer (d.1493) of Norwich
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=799398.0

And the brother of Thomas Aylmer (d.1500) of Norwich
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=800847.0

Going through the two above wills has allowed us to piece together the following family tree:

Robert Aylmer (d.1493), Grocer, Sheriff of Norwich in 1471, Alderman of Norwich in 1480, Mayor of Norwich in 1481 and 1492. He was married to Elizabeth (d.1518). He had two sons, Richard (d.1512) and Thomas (d.1500), and two daughters, Cecile and Elizabeth (d. 15th of September 1493). After his death his widow Elizabeth is involved in a suit with Sir William Knyvett - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_William_Knyvett. At some point after this suit, Elizabeth remarries, to Thomas Thursby.

His son, Richard Aylmer (d.1512), Grocer, Sheriff of Norwich in 1501, Mayor in 1511. Married firstly to Joan, and had by her two sons and two daughters. After Joan's death he remarries again to an unknown second wife and has by her four daughters.

In his will in 1500, Robert's second son and Richard's younger brother Thomas Aylmer mentions a nephew named John Aylmer.

He is of particular interest, since we know that the father of Bishop John Aylmer is said to have been a John.

This John could be one of the two sons that we know Richard Aylmer had, or he could be an illegitimate child of one of his sisters.

Perhaps of Elizabeth, the sister of Richard and Thomas Aylmer, who died on the 15th day of September 1493? A month or two after her father, Robert Aylmer, who died in July or August 1493, but who makes no mention of a daughter Elizabeth in his will?

Or of a sister who married someone with the same last name?

My hope is that this last will & testament will tell us more about Richard Aylmer's family, and hopefully give us more information regarding this John Aylmer, who is of great interest to us.

I apologise for the wretched quality of this, which is undoubtedly why it took me so long to find it, and why the name is mistranscribed so abominably ill both at Ancestry and the National Archives.

The full will here:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/5111/40611_311116-00503/852299?backurl=https%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk%2fsearch%2fdb.aspx%3fdbid%3d5111%26path%3d&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnBrowsing#?imageId=40611_311116-00500

My only comfort is that the will numbers only one page, and it does get better. A lengthy middle part is of much better quality.

Thank you so much in advance if you feel called to take this on

In our search through Aylmer wills we have now reached the one of Roger Aylmer of 1497

It is my hope that it may throw some light as to how the following are related:

Edmund Aylmer and his wife Elizabeth Tyrrell, parents of Frances (d. 1540) and Anne.

We have Thomas and Robert Aylmer, gentlemen, sons of ? Aylmer and his wife Elizabeth de Wood, sister of John at Wood, whose widow was Margaret.

We do have a Thomas Aylmer who married a Rose Jenney (b.1474). It is probable that he was the son of a Roger Aylmer. Could it be Roger Aylmer who married Elizabeth de Wood and was father of the above?

Robert Aylmer's son Alexander married Anne. Alexander was the father of William, Frances - who married Christopher Thetford, Bridget - who married Stephen Rookwood, Elizabeth, Honour, Ursula and Mary.

Frances Aylmer the Elder mentions the child Frances Aylmer the Younger in her will of 1540 and refers to her as 'cousin'.

There is great overlap in the social circles of Frances Aylmer the Elder and Bishop John Aylmer, the tutor of Lady Jane Grey.

Edmund Aylmer, Roger Aylmer and Thomas Aylmer are mentioned together in about 1486 - Brothers?
'Plaintiffs: Edmund Aylmer, esquire. Defendants: William Paston. Subject: Detention of bonds between Roger and Thomas Aylmer and complainant of the one party, and Harry Straunge, Thomas Drury, and John Sharnburgh, of the other.'
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7452975

Laurence Ailmer, John Ailmer and Thomas Ailmer are mentioned together in 1488 - Brothers?
'1488 [...] 4 Henry VII County of Essex [...] 33. Mich. Laurence Ailmer, John Ailmer, Thomas Ailmer, John Barley, Robert Godewyn and William Hampton, pl. Richard Pake and Elizabeth his wife, def. 1 messuage, 24 acres of land, 3 acres of meadow and 18d. rent in Eisonham. Def. quitclaimed to pl. and the heirs of Laurence. Warranty as in 10. Cons. 201.'
http://esah1852.org.uk/images/pdf/ffines/F1400000.pdf

We know that Sir Laurence Aylmer's father was Thomas Aylmer of Ellesnam/Allesham/Elsham in Essex, and that Sir Laurence also had a brother named Thomas Aylmer, gentleman. Could Sir Laurence have been a nephew of Roger Aylmer, and had a brother named John?

Bishop John Aylmer's father is said to have been called John.

We also have another John Aylmer, who is mentioned in the will of his uncle Thomas Aylmer of Norwich in 1500.

Could either of these two John Aylmers be the father of the bishop?

I am hoping that this will might give the answer to some of the questions above

The full will can be found here:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C39Z-SSTC-F?i=591&cat=278818

Thank you so much in advance!

After starting a thread for the will of Thomas Grey, 2nd Marquis of Dorset 1530, and receiving so much kind help here, I have been trying to map out the different brances of the Aylmer family, as Thomas Grey, 2nd Marquis of Dorset, left a legacy to an Anne Aylmer. Aylmer was also the name of the famous tutor the Marquis' possibly even more famous granddaughter, Lady Jane Grey, the Nine Days' Queen.

In addition, a lady by the name of Frances Aylmer was in the household of Princess Mary Tudor together with the Marquis' daughter, Katherine Grey, Lady Maltravers. This Lady Katherine Grey was the aunt of Lady Jane Grey.

With the incredibly kind help and skills of the people here we have been able to get a closer look at the life of this gentlewoman here:

Will of Frances Aylmer 1540
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=799215.0

In her will Frances Aylmer leaves a bequest to a child also named Frances Aylmer. My theory is that that child was the daughter of this Alexander Aylmer.

I hope very much that this will confirm that

I thought I had reached the end of the road in terms of Aylmer wills when I thanks to Bookbox found a whole lot more

The will of Alexander Aylmer can be found here:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSN8-B34S-T?i=354&cat=278818

Thank you so much in advance.